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jeppy Nov 11th 2009 10:08 am

come on tesco,s
 
i wonder if any one could enlighten me i was told operated over east ? .
Lets get tesco,s or asda here how wonderful oz wont be a third world country anymore then.

ABCDiamond Nov 11th 2009 10:18 am

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Originally Posted by jeppy (Post 8091555)
i wonder if any one could enlighten me i was told operated over east ? .
Lets get tesco,s or asda here how wonderful oz wont be a third world country anymore then.

Well, it is working for ALDI, so it should work for the others if they were inclined to try it.

There is no doubt that they could do cheaper prices, as many other Australian smaller shops already do them.

Australian supermarkets could do with more competition.

The problem that Tescos etc., might have, is wondering if the Population will buy from them, when they already don't buy from shops that already undercut the Australian Supermarkets... They have to consider that, and decide on economic terms if it is worth the gamble. After all, they are only interested in profits themselves.

WillBlack Nov 11th 2009 10:29 am

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Originally Posted by jeppy (Post 8091555)
i wonder if any one could enlighten me i was told operated over east ? .
Lets get tesco,s or asda here how wonderful oz wont be a third world country anymore then.

No need to wait, Tesco's are already in Britain.

koalakim Nov 11th 2009 11:05 am

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If Tesco's undercut Coles and Woolies then I should think Aussies would buy from them - after all they love a bargain!

I would go to Aldi's but there isn't one near us but I do stock up on some of their stuff when I'm passing.

They do need more supermarket competition here to lower prices and have more choice, having said that my Mum was moaning about food prices rising in the UK and look how many supermarkets they have there! Although I thought some food items were really cheap in ASDA when I went back this year. Would love some of those prices out here!

They do have Tesco's in Asia and also a lot of the UK shops - M&S, Top Shop etc so there must be some good reason why they've not popped up here considering there is a huge Brit population that would certainly buy from them. Maybe it's hard for them to set up here?

MartinLuther Nov 11th 2009 11:12 am

Re: come on tesco,s
 

Originally Posted by jeppy (Post 8091555)
i wonder if any one could enlighten me i was told operated over east ? .
Lets get tesco,s or asda here how wonderful oz wont be a third world country anymore then.

They had their chance a couple of years ago when Coles were up for sale. They jibbed. Why? Probably because Wollies would have kicked their arse being more experienced with the local market. The same thing happened in the UK when Tesco's kicked Walmart's arse despite Walmart being the biggest supermarket chain in the world.

If you don't like living in a 3rd world country why not more to a 1st world one?

ABCDiamond Nov 11th 2009 11:21 am

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Originally Posted by koalakim (Post 8091703)
Maybe it's hard for them to set up here?

ALDI did it pretty easily, and now have more than 200 stores here, so it can't be that reason.

Many businesses are started in Australia by overseas companies, so I doubt that Tesco are lacking in the ability to do the same.

MartinLuther Nov 11th 2009 11:30 am

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I don't think screwing farmers is as acceptable in Aus as it is in the UK. It's harder to get the farmers to bear the price cuts and provide free credit.

WillBlack Nov 11th 2009 11:44 am

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Originally Posted by MartinLuther (Post 8091764)
I don't think screwing farmers is as acceptable in Aus as it is in the UK. It's harder to get the farmers to bear the price cuts and provide free credit.

Due to being relatively disease free maintained by tight quarantine, Australian farmers can and do sell their produce internationally. Australian retailers, through the wholesale network, must bid against exporters. If they don't bid high enough, they don't get the produce.

kporte Nov 11th 2009 12:04 pm

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Originally Posted by MartinLuther (Post 8091764)
I don't think screwing farmers is as acceptable in Aus as it is in the UK. It's harder to get the farmers to bear the price cuts and provide free credit.

Tesco and wal mart are the top screwers. Their practices are appalling.

Vash the Stampede Nov 11th 2009 12:37 pm

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Originally Posted by WillBlack (Post 8091792)
Due to being relatively disease free maintained by tight quarantine, Australian farmers can and do sell their produce internationally. Australian retailers, through the wholesale network, must bid against exporters. If they don't bid high enough, they don't get the produce.

And let's remember that British farmers receive massive financial subsidies, while Australian farmers don't get any at all.

Lord_Farquar Nov 11th 2009 1:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 8091913)
And let's remember that British farmers receive massive financial subsidies, while Australian farmers don't get any at all.

I take it you are referring to the CAP, of which the UK only gets about 9%.

JCSUPERMOTO Nov 11th 2009 1:59 pm

Re: come on tesco,s
 
Tescos have killed many a good uk town!
Loads of charity n mobile phones shops though.
yes tesco had it all under one roof for good prices,but dam if you shop about you can get good prices by visiting some different places

Amazulu Nov 11th 2009 2:06 pm

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Originally Posted by JCSUPERMOTO (Post 8092096)
Tescos have killed many a good uk town!
Loads of charity n mobile phones shops though.
yes tesco had it all under one roof for good prices,but dam if you shop about you can get good prices by visiting some different places

In a way it's not the fault of Tesco. People have decided to shop there (through advertising, lower prices etc). If people cared about smaller businesses they would have shopped there, but they have chosen not too.

kporte Nov 11th 2009 2:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8092113)
In a way it's not the fault of Tesco. People have decided to shop there (through advertising, lower prices etc). If people cared about smaller businesses they would have shopped there, but they have chosen not too.

This is true but most people are unaware of Tescos cut throat business tactics.

WillBlack Nov 11th 2009 2:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar (Post 8092072)
I take it you are referring to the CAP, of which the UK only gets about 9%.

UK agriculture turns over ~£5G / year, about 0.5% of UK GDP:
http://www.ukagriculture.com/farming...mic_trends.cfm

Looks like the UK gets 9% of €49.8G = €4.4G (* 0.9041 = ~£5G) of CAP money but makes a net contribution of €2.75G (2005).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Agricultural_Policy

Immediately after WWII when Europeans were rationed, CAP may have made some sense. But with vast areas of the world's best temperate farmland the only sense it makes now is political.

Britain could declare itself a City State, give up agriculture and CAP payments, turn farms into parks and flower gardens and barely notice the difference.


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