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Old Feb 21st 2016 | 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by fish.01
Fanbois: Continuous imbalanced rants on unrelated forums about an opposing tech that you don't own with constant dodgy facts and cherry picked comparisons. Accusing other side of being blind. Never ending obsession. Sorry, who did you say were the fanbois's again, I'm confused
Actually, this one is about change. The change Steve Jobs pioneered from the late 90's. Not just tech change, but cultural, marketing, people, business change. Its a brilliant story don't you agree?
 
Old Feb 21st 2016 | 8:26 am
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Actually, this one is about change. The change Steve Jobs pioneered from the late 90's. Not just tech change, but cultural, marketing, people, business change. Its a brilliant story don't you agree?
Steve Jobs was one of the masters of change in all its forms. He changed the world.
 
Old Feb 21st 2016 | 9:18 am
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Steve Jobs was one of the masters of change in all its forms. He changed the world.
Yep. I do agree. No I don't do Apple, the technology is far too inferior today. In some respects it was inferior back in the early to late naughties too, but Jobs was able to make people change which is a feat that has yet to be repeated on such scale. The change was never about the tech. The tech already existed. It was about bringing it to the market and making consumers consume in such mass numbers, building cults and clubs and allowing those cults and clubs to multiply.

Time for the next thing. Change is good.
 
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Change is coming.

Govt ignores new poll on negative gearing - 9news.com.au

Well overdue and the current proposal is flawed, but it certainly puts it on the table. We will see change here, its just a matter of what it is.

At the end of the day, $4 billion worth of taxpayers money shouldn't be used to prop up bad investments.
 
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Change is coming.

Govt ignores new poll on negative gearing - 9news.com.au

Well overdue and the current proposal is flawed, but it certainly puts it on the table. We will see change here, its just a matter of what it is.

At the end of the day, $4 billion worth of taxpayers money shouldn't be used to prop up bad investments.
Changing NG is a red herring

I'm ambivalent about it. I tried it but it didn't work for me, it does for others. I guess it's not a very good policy but you can't have a tax reducing system that people can take advantage of and then get all huffy when they do. Many average Australians quite legally take the risk and do NG in order to reduce their tax and provide for their future. Hurting them is not cool and is socialist nonsense

But ultimately it's a red herring

Stopping all NG would save the budget about $7b - peanuts for a government spending $450b a year. Increasing GST to 15% would raise $35b, which could be used to reduce debt and cut income tax
 
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Can't you just acknowledge the brilliance of the Apple marketing machine in the early part of the naughties?
I'm getting less and less forgiving of lying, in all it's forms, and bullsh*t.

I don't think liars should be rewarded. Neither should bullsh*t. Neither should idiots that can't put two and two together. I feel we've been too accommodating and forgiving of such people - who should rightly be punished, rather than rewarded and protected. To be a liar, to be a fool, should be something that hurts - to stop people doing it again.

You want a good change? Jail the liars.
 
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Change is coming.

Govt ignores new poll on negative gearing - 9news.com.au

Well overdue and the current proposal is flawed, but it certainly puts it on the table. We will see change here, its just a matter of what it is.

At the end of the day, $4 billion worth of taxpayers money shouldn't be used to prop up bad investments.
Negative gearing is the opium that has helped Australians do hooked on property.

It makes sense to give tax breaks to homeowners - everyone needs shelter, as they do food and heating - but to give tax breaks to "investors" in order to write off losses in the expectation of capital gains is absolutely bonkers.
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Whether a change is good or bad is entirely dependent on the type of change itself, and the individual. We all welcome good change, and even bad change can result in a stronger, better you. However some change is just too ridiculously bad to be looked on positively, so not ALL change is good, just as not ALL change is bad.

And punishing people for being idiots? I'm all for that as long as the same punishment is inflicted on intellectual snobs
 
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Change for change sake gets up my nose.

The sort where you change to send people in an anti clockwise direction instead of clockwise just because you can.

I suppose consultants would say it's good "to keep people on their toes" but in reality it achieves nothing.
 
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Change for change sake gets up my nose.

The sort where you change to send people in an anti clockwise direction instead of clockwise just because you can.

I suppose consultants would say it's good "to keep people on their toes" but in reality it achieves nothing.
Sounds to me like you're saying these consultants use this change not because it's good, but because it keeps them in a job. You old cynic you
 
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Sounds to me like you're saying these consultants use this change not because it's good, but because it keeps them in a job. You old cynic you


Seen a lot of them over the years mate.
McKinsey and KPMG to name a couple.

Management Consultancy - the ability to take ideas from the shop floor and present them as your own at a vey high cost to the business.

Boils down to incompetent company management in the first place of course because the Consultant does what they should have done all along.
 
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Seen a lot of them over the years mate.
McKinsey and KPMG to name a couple.

Management Consultancy - the ability to take ideas from the shop floor and present them as your own at a vey high cost to the business.

Boils down to incompetent company management in the first place of course because the Consultant does what they should have done all along.
Management Consulting 101


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I like to change my socks on a regular basis. Almost daily. And my pants too.

Change is good
 
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Seen a lot of them over the years mate.
McKinsey and KPMG to name a couple.

Management Consultancy - the ability to take ideas from the shop floor and present them as your own at a vey high cost to the business.

Boils down to incompetent company management in the first place of course because the Consultant does what they should have done all along.
Exactly. Management are paid to know how to, and to run, a firm. Calling in "consultants" is, in my book, equivalent to saying that you have no idea how to do what you are paid for.

Young relative of mine, just out of Sydney uni with his MBA and newly employed by xxxxxx (A management consultancy you will all have heard of) had his first assignment as consultant to Qantas.

"Money for old rope", he told me. "I know b****r all about Qantas and airlines and here I am earning fabulous sums for advising them".
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Exactly. Management are paid to know how to, and to run, a firm. Calling in "consultants" is, in my book, equivalent to saying that you have no idea how to do what you are paid for.

Young relative of mine, just out of Sydney uni with his MBA and newly employed by xxxxxx (A management consultancy you will all have heard of) had his first assignment as consultant to Qantas.

"Money for old rope", he told me. "I know b****r all about Qantas and airlines and here I am earning fabulous sums for advising them".
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Public website. Hope he has a job if Q read this.

Sometimes management consultants provide the independent approval. I know the company I work for had an idea on how it could change the way it does things. Making it happen and changing the mindset was the problem. The management consultants approval was the kick that made it happen.
 


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