GarryP

Seriously?

Canberra has a reputation as a place where nepotism does business. You don't get anywhere unless you have a nephew of the minister on your staff.

Then, of course, there are the donations, the cozy jobs after you get kicked out. The fact finding visits.

There's a lot of bias going on, like anywhere where numbers are in billions.

OzTennis

A post election and referendum song - seems appropriate (great song anyway):


Standing in line marking time--
Waiting for the welfare dime
'Cause they can't buy a job
The man in the silk suit hurries by
As he catches the poor old ladies' eyes
Just for fun he says "Get a job"



That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is
But don't you believe them



They say hey little boy you can't go
Where the others go
'Cause you don't look like they do
Said hey old man how can you stand
To think that way
Did you really think about it
Before you made the rules
He said, Son



That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is
But don't you believe them



Well they passed a law in '64
To give those who ain't got a little more
But it only goes so far
Because the law another's mind
When all it sees at the hiring time
Is the line on the color bar


That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is
But don't you believe them

Beoz

Absolutely. It is my decision. Decision making extends to all. That's the point isn't it.

knockoff nige

Nope. Because in retail, hospitality etc the decision would be with the employer not the employee if penalty rates were abolished. Everyone can't go and get a higher paying desk job.

Beoz

Seriously you got it.

Words like "reputation" don't hold a lot of conviction.

Do you reckon the Miliband brothers sorted each other out?

Beoz

So you are saying the retail and hospitality employees don't have the ability to shop around to find a store that pays more or provides higher commisions or have the ability to better themselves to move onward and upwards?

knockoff nige

Huh? No I didn't say that and don't think it. But are you saying that it is a buyers market for these retail/hospitality workers where they are likely to get a much better deal down the road? Are you saying that ALL of these workers can get a much better skilled profession? Who'd clean your office toilets?

Remove penalty rates and you won't create more full time jobs, you will lose some full time jobs by creating part time jobs and the unemployment figures will look to improve. Easy coalition win should they get their way. Unskilled workers don't haggle for the best deal. It sounds like you've never worked in a retail or hospitality job.

Beoz

Not for many years. Cleaned rooms in a ski resort once. I chose the hotel with the highest pay and the free lift pass. You know, the best employment conditions.

Then I left and did the night shift cleaning buses. I could then ski in the day.

The point is, we need to shift the competition to the employers. Working on a Sunday and in the night is just part of life these days.

knockoff nige

Life's essentials all sorted then. A single mother of four should give you a call.

Beoz

Na .... I won't be of any use ... this might be better. https://www.entrepreneur.com/slideshow/239018

I wonder if a single mum of 4 is does the night shift or Sunday work. I suppose its possible. Might be a good time to get a baby sitter.

So are you saying we need to keep the bonus days just so the single mum of 4 has the opportunity to work the bonus hours? Ok I get that, fair enough. If night work and Sunday work was for the underprivileged I can run with that.

ozzieeagle

Woke up to this in my mail box..... A job well done I would say

Thank you Australian Electorate.... We live on till the next election.



Although the final result of Saturday’s election is yet to be declared, a couple of things are crystal clear.

First, the union movement’s campaign this election has had a massive impact.

We campaigned on our agenda and the things we believe in, and in the 22 seats where we had community based local campaigns the average swing away from the government was 5.5%. That’s 1.8% higher than the national average.

This is how we made a difference:

16,253 people were involved in the campaign.
We had conversations with 46,102 union members who were swinging voters and convinced 33,191 to put the Liberals last.
There were over 80 door-knocks.
Thousands of us handed out 1 million replica Medicare cards in the last 48 hours.

Over the last 12 months local union members have built campaigns in their communities. Week in, week out they ran street stalls, were at local markets and at train stations talking about the things we believe in.

This stunning result is because we all worked together. Every person who made a call, knocked on a door, handed out a flyer, had a conversation and campaigned on social media can feel proud of what we have achieved.

The second thing that is absolutely clear is that the Liberals’ failure to offer a substantive industrial relations policy leaves them with absolutely no mandate for significant changes or indeed any policy that seeks to undermine workers’ rights, pay or job security should they manage to achieve re-election.

And finally, the Australian people have rejected funding billionaires over Medicare, schools and hospitals. The Australia we want is very different to the Liberals' vision.

We are the mighty trade union movement of Australia. No one attacks our rights and living standards that we have built without an almighty fight.

Show how proud you are by sharing this with your social networks.

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In unity,



Dave and Ged
Australian Unions Team
Australian Unions

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Beoz

Good to see the union movement jumping on someone elses good marketing campaign.

They didn't tell you this.

1. You were lied to about medicare.

2. The lie may very well create a hung parliament which is no good for anyone.

3. The lie may see the return of Tony Abbott.

All good stuff eh ...... if they want to take credit for that .... go nuts.

bcworld

I'm pretty sure the opposition, the unions and anyone ideologically opposed to the coalition would be pretty ecstatic at that prospect!

Beoz

Really. He won an election and by a long way. Not many have done that this decade.

ozzieeagle

Tony Abbot in a Hung Parliament.... the mind boggles... Can just see him hanging around in his speedos.

It's a cross between a Carry on Film and a Pantomine at present.... I do hope the Libs try and power share.