bcworld

So we've got one poster who will agree with whatever the Libs say and do...and one that will agree with everything the unions say and do. Hardly sounds like romping it home!

Beoz

Remember, lefties have alternatives in the Greens and collection of independents. There are very little alternatives for the central and right wingers. Its the majority that rule.

Beoz

Ho ho. I know you don't like factual evidence but pop this in google.

"union membership growth australia".

See what you can find.

OzTennis

See what you can find when you look at who has governed Australia in the last 30 years (regular swings between Coalition and Labor) and the current polls (close).

Nobody denies union membership is declining but your assumption is that this should mean that Labor will never get in power as a result. Labor's appeal obviously extends to non union members which you seem to be in denial about. Some people want a fairer society which is where Labor draws a lot of its support from.

Of the following 100 positive policies, I found only 1 relating to unions and that was the policy to improve union governance which you can't possibly disagree with surely?

Labor's 100 Positive Policies - Australian Labor Party

Better Union Governance - 100 Positive Policies

Beoz

Take it up with the poster in post 359. You disagree with him. Not me.

OzTennis

I'm taking it up with you about your endless comments about declining union membership.

Beoz

We agree then. Unions have declining membership.

Oh BTW.

Having a fairer society doesn't mean promising things you can't pay for.

That's called lying. That's not very fair is it?

Amazulu

Nope

Privatised but delivering free healthcare as a government service, rather than the government doing it themselves

The state is hopeless at delivering services economically and to the best standard - civil service mentality, unions, socialism, red-tape, hatred of the west etc get in the way

They already use the private sector to deliver public services

We'd save a fortune that could be ploughed back into infrastructure and reducing our onerous tax burden

A winning setup

knockoff nige

Those West haters really have it in for us by giving us free GP visits. What's next? Free hobnobs for turning up for work?

Amazulu

I'd prefer Timtams

hawk2005

Labour are toast in Victoria.
Fresh from wasting $1bn+ by cancelling the east west link, bullying premier Dan Andrews has picked an entirely unnecessary fight with the CFA, whose godliness in Victoria is probably above that even of nurses.
Any country seats the ALP had their eye on with go to the LNP, and inner city seats will go to the Greens.

Beoz

Like what the Fake Tradie said who turned out to be a real tradie. More lies from the ALP. "Lets stick with this mob for a while"

The ALP destroys things. Queenland and Victoria should learn.

GarryP

A welder, so still fake with the woodworking setup (and terrible with the script).

As we've covered before, it's the LNP that destroy rather than create. QLD and VIC are certainly doing better than NSW....

the troubadour

I know you find it hard to think outside the box but do try. I don't need to read ' google' union membership in Australia.


You may well consider reasons for declining membership instead of kicking yet another home goal.


I'll help you out. The massive off shoring of jobs in the industrial area being one reason. The ever casualization of the Australian workplace being another. Not forgetting part time jobs and areas where union ability to recruit is limited due to access. Not forgetting the 457's and areas of work where casual foreigners frequent.


Just last week a few of the sixteen professional staff sacked due to ' restructuring' in an agency I am acquainted with were more than pleased to learn they had to be payed long service leave pro rata. Thanks to the union intervention.


Without such assistance working people will be treated accordingly. Will disdain and bullying.


Even professional organizations have their ' unions'. Just look at the AMP for example. Of course business has the Chamber of Commerce to safeguard their legal rights.

the troubadour

Who cares? Both parties are steaming full speed ahead in selling out Australia and continue to slavishly follow neoliberal economic policy which has been shown to be severely flawed to say the least.
It is just a matter whom of the two are less worse under the circumstances. ALP comes out the winner with Turnbull policy under wraps for the large part in order to win more support. Heaven help Australia if that lot gained control of the Senate. It would certainly be time to quit the country.