paulry

Heaps of people in the UK moan about the way that our country has been run down and yes, raped. But no-one does anything to protect/correct it. Seeing the same kind of nonsense going on here ...minus about 30 years.

cresta57

My sisters soon to be Ex works at the Scunthorpe works yep he's the one the put the **** in Scunthorpe.
He's worked there since he left school some 30 years ago.
He's hoping for redundancy so he can make my sister pay him maintenance

slapphead_otool

Sadly very true.

I do take offence at Ramupmabut Tata saying British managment was shithouse, when india is a total management shambles and survives on "aid access to markets" and cheap labour.

sonlymewalter

He's making excuses to make his move. If he moves to his home country he'll vastly increase productvity and munumentally lower his costs and gain huge profits. His people will work for peanuts in conditions we wouldn't even put a dog but life has no value. How else can he justify his move other than blame UK management

papilon

When did you last go to the UK?

They are closing or mothballing 2 loss making plants and put big investment in 2 others.
Plenty of UK owned businesses have moved there manufacturing bases to low cost countries, hardly unique of Tata

ROMFT_WO2RN

He's shaftng the UK but why expect anything else? IMHO steel was one of the industries that needed privatising along with coal, cars and other non-infrastructure industries especially BT.

What shouldn't have been privatised, again IMHO, was the power and water. There's no real competition and they are essential for the economy and national security. How can it make sense for our privatised energy suppliers to be owned by foreign, state owned, companies FFS

right rant over hoovering to do

slapphead_otool

Long time ago mate, last time I was in the UK was 1992. I was involved in the steel industry at a time when it was world ranking. Sad to see it go the way it has.

The point about Tata is they bought a plant purely for its carbon credits, and they survive because of “aid access” to markets. They get reduced restrictions and duties because for some incredibility stupid reason the UK and EU still think India is a third world country. That’s why we also give them massive amounts of aid funding. We seem to overlook the nuclear weapons, bigger Navy, army and air force, space program etc.

Wake up UK, stop treating Tata like a charity.

Pomster

Sadly the UK is doing very weird things at the moment which all involve the tax payers' funds being distributed to stupid causes:

Huge aid payout to Pakistan to build schools when UK schools are getting huge unworkable budget cuts.

Cuts galore yet via EU we have had to contribute to the Euro fiasco bailout: Greece, Ireland and now Portugal.

I think generally people just sit back and accept, but when all you have a choice between is a
1) lying cheating political party
2) cheating lying political party
3) political party which cheats and lies
to form the government it is a touch call. Anarchy is probably the answer!

slapphead_otool

It’s a bloody mess, and I wish it were not so.

They used to say a country gets the politicians it deserves, but I can’t see how the people of the UK deserve the absolute shower of shit they have suffered under. In my lifetime:

Harold Wilson: KGB agent and outright traitor.
Edward Heath: Useless bugger (literally)
James Callaghan: Union stooge
Maggie Thatcher: Union bashing stooge
John Major: Complete grey man who did stuff all
Tony Blair: outright lying asshole, warmonger and closet Catholic.
Gordon Brown: Nuff said.

Given that list of outright wankers I am surprised there is a pot left to urinate in.

ColonialCousin

150+ years of raping and pillaging of the Indian subcontinent - I guess Karma is a b!tch....

slapphead_otool

150 years? You might need to read up your history of India mate. The East India Company established its first permanent factory in Bengal in 1612.

I could fill this site, with a list 1000 pages long of what the British did for India, but it always ends up like a Monty Python sketch. If you want some examples though, I am happy to provide them.

It was a mutually beneficial arrangement, and Britain got a lot out of it too. But what Britain got out of it ended in 1947. We left a functioning society and single country behind, which was far different to what we had found.

When I was in Bombay in 1982 the water pipes were the same ones the British had laid over a hundred years before. I know this because there were water shortages in Bombay - the British had not shown the foresight to estimate the future size of Bombay and had only provided them with 14 inch water mains.

lancastrian48

Globalisation failing ? bring back tariffs to asian contries and china ?

DeadVim

Yup, that's pretty much my motivation, I find the use of that word in a context that doesn't include nonconsensual sex offensive.

As I say, I'm getting old ... I expect being labelled a paedo will become fashionable in 5 years time.

slapphead_otool

Language but its very nature is a living evolving thing, and often the meaning of words changes over time. The word Awful originally meant Awe-full, of full of awe. God knows what “gay” means these days…

But I am far from perfect and apologise for misusing the queen’s speech.

paulry

And the latest one?