Blood
May 7th 2006 | 2:31 am
#106
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
...saucy....VERY funny...... 
May 7th 2006 | 2:36 am
#107
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by Ransi
now dont go and get me telling the story about fag fannys will ya?...my cousin posts on this forum and she might bump into my sister...
May 7th 2006 | 2:37 am
#108
That's Dr Bitch to you
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Re: Blood
Didn't you watch Forrest Gump?
the last one is a bit of a bitch - is Q1-13 true for your current and all past sexual partners. FFS theonly ones who can donate blood are catholic priests.. oh.... hang on a minute, maybe not. What happened in 1977 ? Star Wars came out ( I didntknow it was in the closet) and Elvis Presley died.... conspiracy theory methinks, they dont want anyone to prove Elvis is still alive by accidentally getting his blood.
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Originally Posted by spalen
the last one is a bit of a bitch - is Q1-13 true for your current and all past sexual partners. FFS theonly ones who can donate blood are catholic priests.. oh.... hang on a minute, maybe not. What happened in 1977 ? Star Wars came out ( I didntknow it was in the closet) and Elvis Presley died.... conspiracy theory methinks, they dont want anyone to prove Elvis is still alive by accidentally getting his blood.
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May 7th 2006 | 2:37 am
#109
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Your secret is safe with me
May 7th 2006 | 2:43 am
#110
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Cheers for that Vash [mmmwwwahhhh...big sloppy Aussie kiss ]
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....it helps us to understand why gay men in particular are seen as a high risk factor, but....and here's the thing....as Slaoke says...straight people can also pass HIV on in donated blood and that is why the blood is checked
So...in summary, if straight and gay people can pass it on and blood gets checked anyways, then why discriminate
So...in summary, if straight and gay people can pass it on and blood gets checked anyways, then why discriminate
Think about it: 45% of all HIV cases in the UK are the result of sexual contact between men. But the UK's gay and lesbian community only makes up only 6% of the national population.
This means that 45% of all HIV cases in the UK are found in 6% of the population.
If that doesn't scream "high risk category", I don't know what does.
May 7th 2006 | 2:47 am
#111
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by carolinegorka
And me
May 7th 2006 | 9:37 am
#112
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Re: Blood
Guys, Can we please stop the personal attacks! Noone wants the thread to be closed, but it will be if it turns into just a slanging match.
May 7th 2006 | 7:33 pm
#113
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Why would you need to declare being gay when donating....when non gay people can equally pass on HIV?
May 7th 2006 | 7:36 pm
#114
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by Pollyana
Guys, Can we please stop the personal attacks! Noone wants the thread to be closed, but it will be if it turns into just a slanging match.
Today we all love each other
May 7th 2006 | 7:41 pm
#115
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Errr.....that happened yesterday
Today we all love each other
Today we all love each other
'cos phoenix has put on another patch ( watch out around midnight dudes they only last 24 hrs )
May 7th 2006 | 7:41 pm
#116
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
Because other people will think you are high risk even if you don't think you are.
Surely it shouldn't matter what people *think*.......what is important is that the rule makes sense and is non discriminatory
Whichever way we cut it gay and straight people can both carry HIV.
Yet only straight people can give blood.
All blood gets tested anyway.
So why is the rule one sided and discriminatory?
This....is the question
May 7th 2006 | 7:43 pm
#117
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by spalen
'cos phoenix has put on another patch ( watch out around midnight dudes they only last 24 hrs )
who says they last 24 f c u k i n hours
May 7th 2006 | 9:32 pm
#118
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by karmagirls
I've been reading this entire thread and I don't usually post much unless it's a question related to emigrating and so on, but I felt compelled to just put in my two pence worth here. I'm a little saddened and disappointed by what appear to be obvious homophobic comments on here from some people. Sloake, I can see where you're coming from and I agree that it is ridiculous you're classed as a higher risk than a hetereosexual male when this group is the group with the highest increase in HIV and AIDS at the moment. It is discrimination and it's just another example of gay people wanting to help out and play their role as a good citizen but not being able to. In saying that, I couldn't personally lie on the form as I would be uncomfortable with that, but still, I absolutely see your point about how someone needing a donor wouldn't give a damn whether the person was gay or straight, so long as they matched and were disease free.
I don't like this tone that because you're gay you're living a high risk lifestyle. I think this is ridiculous. The number of people who live high risk lifestyles but are straight probably far outweighs gays. I am a lesbian who thankfully is considered low risk but then I wonder whether they'd care and if there's a box for lesbian as well as gay on the form.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious from certain comments on here why there are still problems with equality in the world.
I don't like this tone that because you're gay you're living a high risk lifestyle. I think this is ridiculous. The number of people who live high risk lifestyles but are straight probably far outweighs gays. I am a lesbian who thankfully is considered low risk but then I wonder whether they'd care and if there's a box for lesbian as well as gay on the form.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious from certain comments on here why there are still problems with equality in the world.
May 7th 2006 | 9:37 pm
#119
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by karmagirls
There are definitely some homophobic comments on here. I wasn't questioning those that are describing their jobs. They're clearly very qualified and should be happy to provide their knowledgeable opinion.
I am also aware that the world consists of many people with many different viewpoints. I'm a sociologist, funnily enough I study society.
As a non-gay person, perhaps you simply aren't as aware of what can be seen as slightly inflammatory, you haven't lived it so that's understandable. I'm not about to get into something with you or anyone else. I was expressing my opinion, which as you so rightly just pointed out is as valid as everyone elses. At least I did mine politely and regardless of the comedy icons at the end of your post, I didn't feel the need to single one person out or mention 'backing off' because of an opinion.
I'm sure this will only serve to irritate you, but I won't be getting involved in a flame war.
I am also aware that the world consists of many people with many different viewpoints. I'm a sociologist, funnily enough I study society.
As a non-gay person, perhaps you simply aren't as aware of what can be seen as slightly inflammatory, you haven't lived it so that's understandable. I'm not about to get into something with you or anyone else. I was expressing my opinion, which as you so rightly just pointed out is as valid as everyone elses. At least I did mine politely and regardless of the comedy icons at the end of your post, I didn't feel the need to single one person out or mention 'backing off' because of an opinion.
I'm sure this will only serve to irritate you, but I won't be getting involved in a flame war.
May 7th 2006 | 9:39 pm
#120
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Re: Blood
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
And that's the point Badge.
Surely it shouldn't matter what people *think*.......what is important is that the rule makes sense and is non discriminatory
Whichever way we cut it gay and straight people can both carry HIV.
Yet only straight people can give blood.
All blood gets tested anyway.
So why is the rule one sided and discriminatory?
This....is the question
Surely it shouldn't matter what people *think*.......what is important is that the rule makes sense and is non discriminatory
Whichever way we cut it gay and straight people can both carry HIV.
Yet only straight people can give blood.
All blood gets tested anyway.
So why is the rule one sided and discriminatory?
This....is the question
