Australia to become a republic?
Dec 17th 2007, 9:40 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Never mind about this Republican nonsense, it will be all in vain if we are Hiroshima'd ...
Nuke Australia
Nuke Australia
Dec 17th 2007, 10:26 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
What about this one.
It's very pretty.
It's very pretty.
Dec 17th 2007, 10:34 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
No one cares one dot in England what Australia do, if you vote to end the Monarchy 99.9% of Brits will not even now it has happened or even care.
Dec 17th 2007, 10:40 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Dec 17th 2007, 10:59 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
What benefit is it to Australia to remain under the monarchy ?
I mean, am I missing something ?
I mean, am I missing something ?
Dec 17th 2007, 11:04 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Dec 17th 2007, 11:11 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
So in a nutshell it's ballshit about trying to retain some history then.
Dec 17th 2007, 11:18 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Perhaps others could forward a more substantial argument, but I can't see it. Australia lost any special trade agreements with the UK when the Traitor Heath gave up British sovereignty in 1973, without public approval. Also, Australia could stay in the Commonwealth and continue to participate in the Commonwealth Games, etc. Being Australian already has no advantages in terms of British customs (at airports etc), and so on.
Dec 17th 2007, 12:06 pm
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Britain, technically, hasn't been an independent sovereign state since 1973. Also, four days ago it lost its right to an independent foreign policy. By my definition, a state must have two things to constitute a modern liberal democracy. 1. Universal suffrage. 2. Its legislature must be totally independent and have no authority above it.
Britain had universal suffrage from 1928, and Westminster lost its position as the top-tier legislature in 1973, with further erosions in 1992 and 2007. This means that British democracy lasted from 1928 - 1973.
And the British don't seem to care much, is what I'm on about. If you told Americans that 70% of their laws would be made in Beijing from now on, I think you'd be looking at a serious reaction. But not in the UK: totally cowed.
Britain had universal suffrage from 1928, and Westminster lost its position as the top-tier legislature in 1973, with further erosions in 1992 and 2007. This means that British democracy lasted from 1928 - 1973.
And the British don't seem to care much, is what I'm on about. If you told Americans that 70% of their laws would be made in Beijing from now on, I think you'd be looking at a serious reaction. But not in the UK: totally cowed.
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Dec 17th 2007, 12:16 pm
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Britain, technically, hasn't been an independent sovereign state since 1973. Also, four days ago it lost its right to an independent foreign policy. By my definition, a state must have two things to constitute a modern liberal democracy. 1. Universal suffrage. 2. Its legislature must be totally independent and have no authority above it.
Britain had universal suffrage from 1928, and Westminster lost its position as the top-tier legislature in 1973, with further erosions in 1992 and 2007. This means that British democracy lasted from 1928 - 1973.
And the British don't seem to care much, is what I'm on about. If you told Americans that 70% of their laws would be made in Beijing from now on, I think you'd be looking at a serious reaction. But not in the UK: totally cowed.
Britain had universal suffrage from 1928, and Westminster lost its position as the top-tier legislature in 1973, with further erosions in 1992 and 2007. This means that British democracy lasted from 1928 - 1973.
And the British don't seem to care much, is what I'm on about. If you told Americans that 70% of their laws would be made in Beijing from now on, I think you'd be looking at a serious reaction. But not in the UK: totally cowed.
Brussels has no REAL power in the UK.
Last edited by guest5234; Dec 17th 2007 at 12:28 pm.