Australia to become a republic?
Dec 16th 2007, 11:45 pm
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
A return to the union flag would save all the hassle ,as it represents democracy,freedom .
It is recognized easily as opposed to the present flag because of the similarities with new zealand .
Even better i think closer links should be formed with the uk and the passports should have Great britain northern ireland and australia on them ,this would solve all the hassle of new migrants coming from the uk and vice versa .
My idea seems like a winner to me .
It is recognized easily as opposed to the present flag because of the similarities with new zealand .
Even better i think closer links should be formed with the uk and the passports should have Great britain northern ireland and australia on them ,this would solve all the hassle of new migrants coming from the uk and vice versa .
My idea seems like a winner to me .
Dec 16th 2007, 11:49 pm
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Dec 17th 2007, 12:08 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
You're weird! Not sure why you think I'm upset.
Are you having trouble reading or what? Or is it that you can't formulate a rational point
Are you having trouble reading or what? Or is it that you can't formulate a rational point
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Dec 17th 2007, 8:44 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Very true. That's the first thing to give the boot :-)
Some ideas here - http://www.ausflag.com.au/new/index.html
I would be happy with this one...
Some ideas here - http://www.ausflag.com.au/new/index.html
I would be happy with this one...
It must be said that many of the proposals on Ausflag are pretty awful and amateurish, ranging from kitsch, through to childish and onwards to banana republic. They need to be careful and retain some dignity because the present Australian flag is well-known and respected. All they need to do is remove the Union flag from the canton and replace it with the white seven pointed star. Simple. This way he identity is retained while the new republican sentiment is declared.
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Dec 17th 2007, 8:54 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
They need to be careful and retain some dignity because the present Australian flag is well-known and respected. All they need to do is remove the Union flag from the canton and replace it with the white seven pointed star. Simple. This way he identity is retained while the new republican sentiment is declared.
Dec 17th 2007, 8:55 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Does anybody know what would happen to those who are citizens and have both passports? Would you eventually have to give up one of them?
Dec 17th 2007, 8:58 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Dec 17th 2007, 8:58 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
There would be no advantage to it whatsoever, but there would be plenty of disadvantages.
Dec 17th 2007, 9:00 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
I don't see why. You can be US/UK dual and the US has been an independent republic since 1776. Australians have tinkered with the concept of dual citizenship before and I think at once stage there was aban or at least some kind of limitation; I'm not sure.
There would be no advantage to it whatsoever, but there would be plenty of disadvantages.
There would be no advantage to it whatsoever, but there would be plenty of disadvantages.
Dec 17th 2007, 9:03 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
No recognition of aboriginals in that flag ,it is nothing but a colonial flag without the union flag and thats the way the aboriginals will see it .
As a brit i would never advocate any removal of the union flag from any flag worldwide .ie hawaii ,fiji,west australia ,etc etc etc etc .
As a brit i would never advocate any removal of the union flag from any flag worldwide .ie hawaii ,fiji,west australia ,etc etc etc etc .
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Dec 17th 2007, 9:10 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
I understand your comment about retaining the Union flag, because quite soon it won't exist in the UK at all so the only place you'll see it flying will be Fiji, etc.
Dec 17th 2007, 9:29 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
The aboriginals are Australian citizens and are represented in the flag to the same degree as everyone else. In addition to this, the flag is representing the new Australian republic, not the pre-1788 Australian continent. This new republic is founded solidly on the principles of Western liberal democracy of which all racial groups are an equal part. The proposed flag contains no imperial referents, but merely uses the symbol of a constellation, inherent to southern hemispheric geography. In this way it discriminates against no one and includes everyone.
I understand your comment about retaining the Union flag, because quite soon it won't exist in the UK at all so the only place you'll see it flying will be Fiji, etc.
I understand your comment about retaining the Union flag, because quite soon it won't exist in the UK at all so the only place you'll see it flying will be Fiji, etc.
This is what makes me laugh about people who want who change the flag ,it is like we can just push all the past under the carpet and start again you just about get every jumped up anti -brit from fenian loving irish men to just about anybody who has an axe to grind against the uk .
The one thing that the present flag which none of the trash that is being served up at the moment has and that is history ,aboriginals died because of it and also aboriginal died under it in the world wars .
Dec 17th 2007, 9:32 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Never mind about this Republican nonsense, it will be all in vain if we are Hiroshima'd ...
Nuke Australia
Nuke Australia
Dec 17th 2007, 9:39 am
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Re: Australia to become a republic?
Very convenient and total fantasy .Lets get something straight wether you are black or white ,australian born or not if you arnt aboriginal you are a thief and it doesnt matter wether there was 10 union flags on the australian flag or none at the end of the day its their country and we as immigrants are nothing but uninvited squatters .
This is what makes me laugh about people who want who change the flag ,it is like we can just push all the past under the carpet and start again you just about get every jumped up anti -brit from fenian loving irish men to just about anybody who has an axe to grind against the uk .
The one thing that the present flag which none of the trash that is being served up at the moment has and that is history ,aboriginals died because of it and also aboriginal died under it in the world wars .
This is what makes me laugh about people who want who change the flag ,it is like we can just push all the past under the carpet and start again you just about get every jumped up anti -brit from fenian loving irish men to just about anybody who has an axe to grind against the uk .
The one thing that the present flag which none of the trash that is being served up at the moment has and that is history ,aboriginals died because of it and also aboriginal died under it in the world wars .
This is your argument and it is ridiculous. The fact is that human history has centuries of conquest and invasion in it. From Ghengis Khan and the mongol invasion of half of Asia to white settlement in Africa and north America, to Japanese imperial domination of SE Asia.
The aborigines also invaded Australia, 60,000 years ago, and consequently they are not inherent to the continent, and therefore it does not belong to them either, unless you subscribe to the "we were here first" rule, in which case, you believe the English should apologise to the Welsh and change the flag of St. George to that of the Ddraig Goch.