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Old Nov 30th 2014 | 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Never quoted in the Public sector, so it is an issue. Especially when it was added as salary combined with the average sick leave taken.

You cannot be employed without that 9.5 pct and in most cases it's decades away from being a usable benefit.
But still a benefit

Like I said, a non-issue

This union is just spouting more socialist bullshit - and yet another union, the CFMEU, now runs your state

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Old Nov 30th 2014 | 4:11 pm
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Old Nov 30th 2014 | 4:52 pm
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Never quoted in the Public sector, so it is an issue. Especially when it was added as salary combined with the average sick leave taken.

You cannot be employed without that 9.5 pct and in most cases it's decades away from being a usable benefit.
Included in mine. Gross package.

What's the issue about the sick leave thing? I don't understand.
 
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Well done Victoria
Indeed

The people have spoken.....and this is just the start
 
Old Nov 30th 2014 | 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Included in mine. Gross package.

What's the issue about the sick lesomething don't understand.
I think the issue is there is a certain type of individual who regards sick pay/leave as sonething to be used up each year, use your holiday entitlement then use your sick leave as holiday. some of those union boys in construction would be taking nearly 2 months off a year
more including roster days. Then you begin to understand why constuction costs are so high.
 
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I think the issue is there is a certain type of individual who regards sick pay/leave as sonething to be used up each year, use your holiday entitlement then use your sick leave as holiday. some of those union boys in construction would be taking nearly 2 months off a year
more including roster days. Then you begin to understand why constuction costs are so high.
Seriously. No doctors note required?
 
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Then you begin to understand why constuction costs are so high.
And about to get higher in Victoria now that the CFMEU are running the show
 
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Seriously. No doctors note required?
5 days per annum with no doctors note at Post and Government Hospitals. 3 weeks accruing in total per annum. The uncertificated leave component doesn't compound. Which is why people use that component first and regularly. Only 2 days concurrent can be taken without a certificate.

It's all part of the general federal award for all workers on award wages around the nation.. Which the vast majority of employers take onboard whether under federal award or not. Generally new migrants aren't afforded these base workers rights by employers that bring in staff from overseas on contracts. Muck around with these base rights, like penalty rates, and pay the consequences as Howard/Napthine now know and Abbot and Newman are about to find out.

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5 days per annum with no doctors note at Post and Government Hospitals. 3 weeks accruing in total per annum. The uncertificated leave component doesn't compound. Which is why people use that component first and regularly. Only 2 days concurrent can be taken without a certificate.
Its not a perk mate. You are using my tax to take a perk. Its designed for being sick. If we did this in the private sector we'd be out on our ear ...... shocking stuff. What a disgrace.
 
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Its not a perk mate. You are using my tax to take a perk. Its designed for being sick. If we did this in the private sector we'd be out on our ear ...... shocking stuff. What a disgrace.
You can use it if a family member is sick under carers leave, Bereavement leave, and moving house. Personally most of my leave thus far would be due to fatigue due to not getting enough sleep for night shift. Next year I complete 20 years at post... I reckon I've earned myself a few long weekends I definitely wont be able to cash my 7/8/9 months of accrued sick leave in when I retire in the next few years.

Plus Aus Post pays tax rather than receives it.

The system/Aus tradition is now safe in Victoria, and federally probably, for another 4 years at least.
 
Old Nov 30th 2014 | 6:59 pm
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Just waiting to see how it will pan out now in Prahran...I think we might be waiting some time!
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Old Nov 30th 2014 | 7:07 pm
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Old Nov 30th 2014 | 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
And about to get higher in Victoria now that the CFMEU are running the show
Not my problem anymore as we have moved to the middle east but Australians don't look like they have much stomach for any goverment belt tightening. When you factor in that Australia continued to grow during those tough economic times for most of the developed world it now has a very high cost base for business with wages a significant component.
 
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
You can use it if a family member is sick under carers leave, Bereavement leave, and moving house. Personally most of my leave thus far would be due to fatigue due to not getting enough sleep for night shift. Next year I complete 20 years at post... I reckon I've earned myself a few long weekends I definitely wont be able to cash my 7/8/9 months of accrued sick leave in when I retire in the next few years.

Plus Aus Post pays tax rather than receives it.

The system/Aus tradition is now safe in Victoria, and federally probably, for another 4 years at least.
I have to admit, I wasn't aware of sick leave. I've never been unfortunate enough to need it, but should I get sick, or a family member gets sick its nice to know its there for its intended purpose - sickness. Not for cashing in when retired.

If your dishonest attitude towards sick leave is reflective across government institutions, its time to provide some incentive against self entitlement.
 
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Its not a perk mate. You are using my tax to take a perk. Its designed for being sick. If we did this in the private sector we'd be out on our ear ...... shocking stuff. What a disgrace.
The change will come

but it will be done in an easy or hard way

so far the majority of people in Australia (reinforced by what just happened in Victoria) look like they want it done the hard way

their call but the rest of us will have to suffer because of it

but it will happen
 


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