Aborigines?
Aug 6th 2010, 9:55 pm
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Re: Aborigines?
Spoken like someone that is so obtuse it's sickening.
It was only about a hundred years ago that government sanctioned murder of them was stopped. It was only the mid 60s that indigenous were counted as being human in this convict outpost. The only reason they stopped murdering them and started even acknowledging them as human was because of outside pressure for australia to stop their practices of abuse and racism. And if you talk to enough australians you'll hear the same thing still "they should all be shot" How can a person or people get over it if that's all they keep hearing and are treated like garbage.
Not many would fault the jews for being zealots for what they've been through. The indigenous here have been exposed to for a couple hundred years the same thing - from overt racism to government sanctioned extermination. What they've been through break my heart and continues to.
An aussie common euphemism seems appropriate here... Pull your head out mate!
It was only about a hundred years ago that government sanctioned murder of them was stopped. It was only the mid 60s that indigenous were counted as being human in this convict outpost. The only reason they stopped murdering them and started even acknowledging them as human was because of outside pressure for australia to stop their practices of abuse and racism. And if you talk to enough australians you'll hear the same thing still "they should all be shot" How can a person or people get over it if that's all they keep hearing and are treated like garbage.
Not many would fault the jews for being zealots for what they've been through. The indigenous here have been exposed to for a couple hundred years the same thing - from overt racism to government sanctioned extermination. What they've been through break my heart and continues to.
An aussie common euphemism seems appropriate here... Pull your head out mate!
actually I would and DO... what zionists do in the name of past persecution is COMPLETELY unacceptable.... it makes it doubley a crime against humanity in my mind, that having as a people experienced pograms, persecution and extermination the "victims" practice the same injustices against fellow human beings... considered lesser valued beings by accident of birth .... sorry, not the victims, but the children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of the 'victims' Who have developed an entitlement attitude... but suffered little themselves...
OK... anti zionist rant over...
At some point victims must begin to rebuild their lives... it's easy to make a living from past injustices, when that is an option on offer courtesy of the govt ... much much harder to take control when it is given and move onwards. Those that have taken control and moved on are the ones who we are NOT talking about here...
whether they are the silent majority or not I don't know...
Aug 6th 2010, 10:29 pm
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Re: Aborigines?
You're kidding right!!!!!!!!! They have been here for thousands of years and it's only the last 250 years that their world had completely collapsed. You're on your way to being an exemplary australian - absolutely disgusting way of thinking. Now all you have to do is start chanting the mantra "the government should have finished them all off a hundred years ago"
Well lets look at this from a historical perspective. They did a pretty good job for at least the last 30000 years, some say up to 60000 years... I suspect that it would take a fair bit of time to shed the abuse heaped on them by the convicts but judging by history they would do ok.
Spoken like someone that is so obtuse it's sickening.
It was only about a hundred years ago that government sanctioned murder of them was stopped. It was only the mid 60s that indigenous were counted as being human in this convict outpost. The only reason they stopped murdering them and started even acknowledging them as human was because of outside pressure for australia to stop their practices of abuse and racism. And if you talk to enough australians you'll hear the same thing still "they should all be shot" How can a person or people get over it if that's all they keep hearing and are treated like garbage.
This post is so over the top. You really should calm down and post in a more rational manner.
An aussie common euphemism seems appropriate here... Pull your head out mate!
It was only about a hundred years ago that government sanctioned murder of them was stopped. It was only the mid 60s that indigenous were counted as being human in this convict outpost. The only reason they stopped murdering them and started even acknowledging them as human was because of outside pressure for australia to stop their practices of abuse and racism. And if you talk to enough australians you'll hear the same thing still "they should all be shot" How can a person or people get over it if that's all they keep hearing and are treated like garbage.
This post is so over the top. You really should calm down and post in a more rational manner.
An aussie common euphemism seems appropriate here... Pull your head out mate!
Heard lots of people here and elsewhere pretend and pontificate like they're intellectuals about the indigenous as if they're animals on a wildlife documentary - totally separate from human race...
I have never heard anyone speak of aboriginals as if they were animals and I've lived here for a very long time.
Here's a novel idea... why don't you invite an indigenous and their family over for dinner - get to know them. Ya know... treat them like their humans... It's amazing what a little bit of basic human respect can achieve. Something that has been completely non-existant in this convict outpost.
I have never heard anyone speak of aboriginals as if they were animals and I've lived here for a very long time.
Here's a novel idea... why don't you invite an indigenous and their family over for dinner - get to know them. Ya know... treat them like their humans... It's amazing what a little bit of basic human respect can achieve. Something that has been completely non-existant in this convict outpost.
Aug 7th 2010, 12:17 am
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Aug 7th 2010, 3:23 am
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Re: Aborigines?
Totally hilarious .
Aug 7th 2010, 10:07 am
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Either way your point seems to only want to justify their oppression from white settlers today, which is wrong...there is no justification
Aug 7th 2010, 10:32 am
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Re: Aborigines?
I wonder what happened to the people who were here before the aborigines? Could it be that, as in every other country in the world, the present aboriginals got rid of them? The convicts who escaped and survived actually lived with the aborigines, it was the settlers and the British army who were prone to killing.
Take New Zealand for example, the Maori are not aboriginal. I was informed by an aboriginal mate of mine that they actually ate all the aborigines in NZ after they arrived so it makes what happened to the Australian aboriginals look pretty mild in comparison.
Aug 7th 2010, 3:44 pm
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How do they know they predated aboriginals when scientists and archeologists cannot give an accurate time frame of when aboriginals themselves arrived? Is it 40,000 years or 125,000 years?
Either way your point seems to only want to justify their oppression from white settlers today, which is wrong...there is no justification
Either way your point seems to only want to justify their oppression from white settlers today, which is wrong...there is no justification
As for justifying oppression, I think you presume too much. My point was that if in fact there were people in Australia before the aboriginal, the aborigines over ran them and in their turn were over run. Many of that race use this as an excuse for their current behaviour instead of making a decent life for themselves, whether in western society or in a more traditional setting.
No one in their right mind would condone oppression in any form and I can assure you I have plenty empathy.
Aug 7th 2010, 3:47 pm
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Re: Aborigines?
Strictly speaking Aborigine comes from "Ab Origine" meaning from the beginning so there were no people before aborigines.
Take New Zealand for example, the Maori are not aboriginal. I was informed by an aboriginal mate of mine that they actually ate all the aborigines in NZ after they arrived so it makes what happened to the Australian aboriginals look pretty mild in comparison.
Take New Zealand for example, the Maori are not aboriginal. I was informed by an aboriginal mate of mine that they actually ate all the aborigines in NZ after they arrived so it makes what happened to the Australian aboriginals look pretty mild in comparison.
Aug 7th 2010, 6:47 pm
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Re: Aborigines?
I think you do, you asked "I wonder what happened to the people who were here before the aborigines?" by definition there are no people before aborigines. If you don't feel like learning this then maybe some others here might.
Aug 7th 2010, 7:57 pm
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beyond doubt." Then again you may not. I apologise profusely for not being more explicit.
People much more knowledgable than me are debating this topic.
Aug 7th 2010, 8:04 pm
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