pommie bastard

I agree about the private health issue , there are charges for some Medicare and a levy plus taxes so its not free ,same as NHS .
Would the good people in the UK pay to see a doctor or take private health cover in the same numbers as OZ , I think not , may have something to do with very poor sick pay in OZ.

rossifumi

I absolutely cannot disagree with anything you have said there, let's face it, it does not take very long to suss out the breed you speak off. We have some as you say 'true blue' Aussie mates and they are tip top and whilst at a BBQ the other night they basically spoke of what you have just mentioned.

There's just no need for the abrasiveness and insults (if anyones wondering, I am sober) if it is your purpose to just wind people up you really do need more practice.

Enough about you, it's my turn now.

The past couple of days job searching

To work in the Aviation industry within a military contract you are required to be a citizen to gain a certain level of security clearance, I'm not a CITIZEN.
So I see a job advertised that I am really enthusiastic about and contact the HR Manager who just repeats the above criteria.

I explain I have telephoned the Defence Security Authority in Adelaide who deal with individuals clearance and she says due to you coming from a Commonwealth country and your previous history, clearance won't be a problem.

After getting the information here is the e-mail I sent to the HR Manager...

Dear G

I have just spoken to the DSA in Canberra and you are probably aware, if for example I was the only candidate with the required specialist skills for a particular position and you couldn't find an Australian citizen to fill that position through their lack of skills then a citizenship waiver can be applied for myself and then the normal procedure of gaining clearance applies, otherwise I must be an Australian citizen.
The clearance procedure is at no cost to the employer.
Here are the details of the lady I have just spoken to re: defence security clearance for your information, she was happy that I supply them to you.

Can you please advise whether I should continue to apply for positions within Australian *********
Many thanks for your time with this matter.

In todays Australian newspaper I see that the above company are readvertising a position obviously due to either an offer being declined, a suitable candidate couldn't be sourced or something else. So I telephoned the HR Manager today and referred him to the e-mail I sent yesterday. So I explained that I see you are readvertising for this position and it's lots of er, erms....
I suggested that if you are interviewing again and I slotted into all the criteria just nicely then surely the scenario I spoke of in my e-mail to you will come into play if you can't source an Australian citizen to fit the bill and the company could apply for a citizenship waiver for me and the clearance process will commence which incidentally will take the same amount of time as for a citizen.

The upshot was that they weren't prepared to do this and will basically re-interview the also rans from the initial interviews that weren't suitable in the first place and any new candidates.

I suggested that I was virtually next door to them on Monday for an interview with a civilian airline (no clearance requirement) and I would like to discuss this further with him, he basically said, don't bother.

So as I see it certain companies will quite happily employ inferior candidates because of this contractual red tape.

I have spoken to a Business Manager of the largest aviation company here after meeting him at the kids swimming classes and he admits it's a shambles, he says there's an awful lot of lethargy in HR.

Anyway, if you're still awake, I have been looking out of the box so to speak and I'm on my 3rd interview this Monday so here's hoping. The first 2 went really well but who knows.

Rich

gedge

hello again IM, what brings you to this part of the forum?
it all gets a bit heated in here, don't say I didn't tell you

username 34

hi G,
I know! well, I love to see the experiences of other expats and to be quite frank - I have **** all else to do today as its raining!!!

pommie bastard

Welcome to the real Australia ,9 goverments , none of them good for anything bar employing loads of the unemployable , good luck.

hevs

Its not free, but its affordable.

I think the poms in the UK wouldn't dream of paying on the whole cos its just not acceptable Where as here its just what you do.

The sick pay here is a week or two per year, is that not the same as UK? I can't remember? It does also depend who you work for. Matt became sick and undiagnosed for 3 months. In that time his work continued to pay him in full though he didn't do a full days work for 3 months. There is no way my boss could do this (small business) Matts employers are also holding his job open indefinately untill he can go back to work and they have also set up a plan with their own insurers in the unlikely event that he should not be able to return ( :scared: ) Again very much down to the employer.....

gedge

don't judge australia on this thread whatever you do
on second thoughts maybe you should
it's raining here too, so i'm off for some shut eye
catch u later

CasG

Nighty night

rossifumi

Yes but I knew this was going to be a stumbling block but we decided to give it a go nonetheless. As I say I have tried the military aviation route to exhaustion now and am concentarting on civilian airlines and non aviation related but trade related employment now with 3 interviews in a very short space of time. The thing that grips my shit is I have a mate who works for Boeing and all employees are on a bonus scheme for introducing manpower to the company but it seems HR can't be arsed. As I said, that chapter is finished now.

We are prepared to move way for work, weren't you or didn't you need to?

Coming back to your post #412 with the bad mannered locals etc... how could you let them get to you that much where it made you leave the country? Did it make you feel somewhat insecure or something, there must have been more to it than you say, surely. How long did you stay?

Catch everyone on this one tomorrow no doubt, time for bed said Zebbedee.

pommie bastard

No employer in OZ has to pay more than 2 weeks per year , state sick pay is means tested.If you are injured at work then compo is applied .
You have been very lucky with Matts employer , hope he gets back to full health.
Mention top up payment for the NHS in the UK and theres an up rising , but it would empty the GPs waiting room.

hevs

LOL Do it! Get rid of the hypochondriacs

State Sick pay is pathetic, but very well policed. If you are signed off permanently you then go to disabled pension which is apparently meant to be better, but harder to prove.

whoever

Pommie Bastard,

People like you deserve to stay in England. 'Backwards thinking' is what comes to mind.

pommie bastard

I worked for an R&D company that had 560 employess when I started , 95 left when I left 10 years later.
I always told them I was doing missionary work , we had engineers from all over the world , good place to work and made some good friends, Aussies are far to dull to get the better of me.
I just got bored with Perth and wanted to be back near family

stuckinblighty

and so it continues .................................

Bix

I hear the drums.........shhhh.........