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Old Apr 21st 2009, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
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I do not care for your tone and your level of comprehension would appear to be at a rather low level that goes with your prattish personal comments.
Exactly where are the comments saying Australians are racist??I do though dispair at a lot of the attitudes that UK people bring to this country with regards to this matter and there could be an arguement at closer vetting of racist extremists who may wish to upset the harmony.
As for not deserving to be here i will return that compliment to you if you find the freedom of expression to much for you to endure perhaps you may care to remove your self.?
Oh and why would i move to France??
i think you sound like a "leftie bottom burper" aka "black adder"
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Old Apr 21st 2009, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by UncleKev
Surely that is why we have an immigration policy that is bringing 300,000 new migrants a year, including record numbers from China, India and the Middle East. These new people are welcomed here with government support and the assistance of numerous agencies and charities. They are welcomed into our work places with open arms. Many work with me in the IT industry in Canberra including my boss. Do not distort the argument abour illegal immigration into racism.

What we do not want in Australia is to have criminals break the law to get into Australia. We have a population of approximately 21 million and are trying to absorb nearly a third of a million newcomers each year from over 100 source countries.

And still people like you make your snide little comments implying that Australians are racists. You are beneath contempt, and do not deserve to be here yourself.

Why would a racist country take in such a huge number of people from so many races and religions?

If you want a racist country to rant about, leave here and go to live in France.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...k-Britain.html
Do you really accept a sensationalist head line from a so called journal as The Daily Fail,which may well be suitable as a substitute for light comic relief at the very best as being factual news.?
This journal along with a couple of others tabloids of the UK gutter press as pushed an anti immigrant anti European agenda aiming at a readership of low brow,white lower middle class punters who lap up this manufactured,taken out of context ,mis quoated ,semi truth ,half truth or just plain no truth tosh.
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Originally Posted by robo43
You are right Uncle Kev and so is the Mayor of Calais
Now why does this comment not surprise me.?
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Old Apr 21st 2009, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by robo43
Wrong product of Wilson,Heath and Callaghan
And have you no shame?
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Old Apr 21st 2009, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by robo43
Here go the fantasists again ,we all know that once they get there foot in the door they will be claiming that sharia law is the only law they recognise,look at the muslim community in UK
Perhaps after a longer period here (say twenty years)you will be cured of this malice and angst towards others.
A little more enligtment on your part towards the diversity of Islamic nations and people just may in part go towards easing your concern with such matters.
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
Do you really accept a sensationalist head line from a so called journal as The Daily Fail,which may well be suitable as a substitute for light comic relief at the very best as being factual news.?
This journal along with a couple of others tabloids of the UK gutter press as pushed an anti immigrant anti European agenda aiming at a readership of low brow,white lower middle class punters who lap up this manufactured,taken out of context ,mis quoated ,semi truth ,half truth or just plain no truth tosh.
You seem to get terribly worked up by others' opinions: try taking a stress pill and having a nice lie-down. Works for me....
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Originally Posted by robo43
A majority of that 25% come from the same or very similar culture to Australia. I think a more pertinent question is how many Australian citizens have been killed or planned to be killed by non Australian born Muslims which the asylum seekers / illegal immigrants are ?
An even more pertinent question could be something along the lines of How many English racists are flooding into the country importing views that are contary to the policy of this nation?
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Originally Posted by Pomster
One problem I have with asylum seekers is that today's asylum seeker was potentially yesterday's oppressor.

In theory - if the Taliban were completely overthrown today, they would be persecuted by the new ruling majority. So do all UN convention countries throw their doors open and offer the Taliban refuge?

OK this is an extreme example, but in many many countries if you do not agree with the government, you are likely to be persecuted. Watch the number of people fleeing SA once Zuma has been in power a couple of months....
Zuma is claiming to wanting to form an all inclusive with including all races having representating including of course the Afrikanners.
I to have real concerns about this and the fact the situation would require a near massacre of the remaining white tribe along with the mixed race (coloureds} and Indians before any nation would open their doors to the non UK passport holders.
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
Zuma is claiming to wanting to form an all inclusive with including all races having representating including of course the Afrikanners.
I to have real concerns about this and the fact the situation would require a near massacre of the remaining white tribe along with the mixed race (coloureds} and Indians before any nation would open their doors to the non UK passport holders.
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Hmm, all the old British union members who moved here during the Thatcher years could have flown to Indonesia then got on a boat to get here, and been asylum seekers then...

Who needs a Visa, when you can try a boat approach, as long as you can get to land.
Cannot determine who you refer to?Do you mean the former British Commonwealth?If so then one group would one assumes would have qualified and those would have been the Ugandian Asians from way back in the early 70s after they were expelled by Idi Amin but most being British passport holders arrived there.Uganda being land locked would not have facilitated departure though.
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Cannot determine who you refer to?Do you mean the former British Commonwealth?If so then one group would one assumes would have qualified and those would have been the Ugandian Asians from way back in the early 70s after they were expelled by Idi Amin but most being British passport holders arrived there.Uganda being land locked would not have facilitated departure though.
I am talking about Trade Unionists from Britain... Arthur Skargills lot, many of them fled to Australia when Thatcher clamped down on Trade Unions....


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Originally Posted by UncleKev
We need to be very careful that we separate out the two main aspects of this thread.

1. There is an increase in boat people coming to Australia since the Labour government relaxed the laws. (The relaxing of the laws may have had nothing to do with the increase, but it is a fact that the numbers have increased since the laws were changed).

2. There are some refugees with horrific injuries that need treatment.

Its important that we dont let the bleeding heart PC brigade hijack the debate about point one by beating us up about point 2.

I will not argue about treatment of the refugees injuries. That has to happen without question.

But we need to be very careful what signals we are sending out to the millions of people that want to leave third world hell holes and start a new life of luxury on social welfare in Australia.

Its only a few boats now, but that is probably what the Aborigines thought when the first fleet sailed into Botany Bay.

Australia needs to make a rational decision about what the demographic and social makeup of the country will be in the future to avoid any repeats of the Cronulla Riots.

Some of the recent violence in Sydney gives us some clues as to what lays in store if we keep binging in people that dont fit into our society.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-r...0328-9eri.html
Associating the last paragraph of yours with refugees is ridiculous. To be specific it's a Lebanese problem, and most Lebanese are legal Migrants.

There can be a limit set on Refugees, If Australia takes more than its pro rata quota, then it could have the choice to send them to other western nations. The fact is a country needs to take responsibility in declaring whether the people are genuine refugees or not. Australia being one of the more wealth countries in the world, has an obligation to take some of this responsibility. Especially if people are looking to enter it as genuine refugees.



It's a world problem, not a specific Australian one.
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I am just confused
Sorry for any confusion in fact perhaps not really related to subject on hand at all and certainly not directly.
Just a few thoughts with regards to the incoming leader of South Africa.Mr Zuma is of very unknown or (perhaps too well known) quantity for various past misdeeds and a number of people of all the races that make up the rainbow nation (South Africa)do harbour a degree of mistrust and fear to how Mr Zuma will conduct himself and hence the impact on that nation.
He has stated that he wants an all inclusive government meaning all races that go to make up that country.(Black African,Coloured-mixed race-Indian,Chinese and the Afrikaner-white Dutch speaking,who as he rightly says has no where to run to(the UK passport can bail out with ease)
Some state a Zimbabwe is possibly in the making...too long winded to express why many whites are alarmed and as crime and economic reasons do not allow one political asylum rights something so much worse would need to occur to refugee status to those affected.
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I am talking about Trade Unionists from Britain... Arthur Skargills lot, many of them fled to Australia when Thatcher clamped down on Trade Unions....


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True enough, leadership of the Great British Proleteriat has made this country what it is today.Cheers for that lads.
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Associating the last paragraph of yours with refugees is ridiculous. To be specific it's a Lebanese problem, and most Lebanese are legal Migrants.

There can be a limit set on Refugees, If Australia takes more than its pro rata quota, then it could have the choice to send them to other western nations. The fact is a country needs to take responsibility in declaring whether the people are genuine refugees or not. Australia being one of the more wealth countries in the world, has an obligation to take some of this responsibility. Especially if people are looking to enter it as genuine refugees.



It's a world problem, not a specific Australian one.
Ozzieeagle go easy on our Uncle after all he is a Daily Failure reader you know?
Give him time and he'll be down loading The Current Bun in the search of factual information but in the longer term i sort of feel he will turn out okay.
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