The fact remains that you know what the speed limit is, you know the penalty for exceeding it, you exceeded it, and you got caught. How you got caught is irrelevant.

You sound as if you would like our soldiers to go back to wearing bright red uniforms in battle so the enemy can clearly see where they are.

I object to the government setting arbitrary speed limits and using them as revenue raisers rather than safety measures (what on earth is the justification for the 100kph limit between Caloundra and Sunshine Motorway on the Bruce, or the 3 different limits on the ICB?) but I don't think it's "unsporting" for them to police these limits in any way they choose.

There's also an unmarked white ute (something like a rodeo ) operating at the moment (every couple of days i see it) on the Mount Gravatt/Capalaba Road in between Wishart and Upper Mount Gravatt (just before Garden City) if anyone uses that road so be aware of that B*****D too

Got to say this is one area where back in Blighty is better. They have got rid of most of the cameras now after it was proved that they were not a benefit to safety.

Dont know about QLD, but in WA the driving is appaling but never see a police car. Just cameras which dont pick up the tail gating and things

When i saw the headline for this post I thought it was going to be about the Australians at the Commonwealth games, however, it is my belief that every K over is a killer, myself and family are regular users of this road, please in future slow down and stick to the speed limit,if not for your own safety, then for other road users

Cheers

If you use that road regularly then you will know that over 90% of the drivers on there exceed the speed limit.
The real issue is that the speed limits are far too low for what is supposed to be a three lane (part 4 lane) motorway.

114 kph is about 70 mph.....hardly what I would call an excessive speed.

This is simply revenue raising.

Quite honestly, and I know I'm going to get shot down in flames for this, but I wished there were more unmarked speed cameras on our roads as well as unmarked police vehicles and that the penalties were a lot higher, then maybe, just maybe, some of the idiots on our roads will be caught. The speed limits are there for a reason and if just one fatality can be prevented, then its been worth it! I witnessed a near fataility on the M1 on the Gold Coast a few weeks ago. One idiot motorcylist, who almost killed himself, almost took innocent victims with him as a result.

I won't shoot you down, I 100% agree with you. Why everyone is in a hurry I don't know? If the limit is 100kph and you go 114kph on average you would arrive 7 minutes earlier travelling 100 km. Is it worth it? Is something so important a driver has to risk others lifes to get somewhere that much quicker.

I wager in the majority of cases all people know this, it's just a bad habit that we are all susceptible to.

Wait until it's your son/daughter who gets knocked down by a speeding driver, people soon change there tune pretty damn fast. All this moaning about revenue increasing is just a plain bogus excuse.

Yeah how often do you see speed cameras around residential streets where kids are playing or riding bikes?

The chances of being killed by a car is much higher in a residential area than a motorway that's why the speed limits are lower in residential areas.

I can't see what difference a few K over the limit will do on a motorway if there is an accident, besides 114 is nothing I just got overtaken on the Bruce (single lane) doing a 140 and on that stretch of road I have never once seen a camera or highway patrol car.

That just a few k's translates to 108 feet of extra stoppage distance, useful if you don't want some idiot taking out your innocent children sat in the back seat.

Your 140 example takes an extra 370 feet to stop.

and if there was another "idiot" doing exactly the same thing coming the other way, what sort of carnage do you think a collision at 280 k's plus would leave. Kill youself by all means, but don't take the rest of us with you!!

Have you ever been to Germany or Switzerland?
Both are "speeding hells", although the German's normally don't have any speed limits on their highways they enforce there regulations with loooottttsss of stealth cars (most police stealth cars are stuffed with tons of different speeding cameras...They can get you while standing, while moving and even when they are driving on the opposite direction)...
The swiss combine this with horrible fees (2000AUD for 10km/h to fast are no problem)

And, to be honest? I find it not that bad. They have far less traffic vicitims than australia if you count it per inhabitant.

I was not the one that was doing the overtaking. The point I was trying to make was that speed cameras are usually only placed in areas where they will raise revenue not save life's!

apologies - misinterpreted what you said

And that is exactly the problem. If they wanted to save lives and stop accidents there are better ways to do it.

It's the same with car parking charges. The council don't care about parking congestion, all they care about is revenue.

Where did you pull that 7 minutes from? Is every journey you do 50km is length? On a drive BNE-SYD that kind of speed differential will save you nearly an hour and a half - thats a significantly shorter time to be concentrating and possibly a shorter time exposed to the extreme dangers of 'driving tired'.

Also consider the stess of driving at a artificially slow speed. It takes constant focus to remain at Australian 'snail pace' speeds on the road. This focus detracts from the important business of paying attention to the road conditions and traffic around you. If driving at a 'natural' speed allows people to concentrate more on their surroundings then safety will be improved.

Is rigidly following the speed limit so important that a driver has to risk others lives to ensure compliance?


(OK - I'll admit the above point may be laboured somewhat - but as a particularly 'vulnerable' road user I spend my life dodging poor attentive drivers on the roads and cursing dangerous driving practices as I take evasive action to maintain my status as an 'alive' person - Many of th drivers I dodge are religiously sticking to the speed limit as they drift mindlessly across lanes, through red lights and generally into my 'death zone'. I have almost NEVER been threatened by a driver exceeding the speed limit.)