The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Sep 8th 2010, 9:22 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
They voted for an Independent, not someone who would align themselves with the 3rd party of their choice.
Many voters in those electorates chose Liberal/National as their second choice, but ended up with their vote going Labor, due to their "conservative" independent now choosing Labor, after the vote.
Many voters in those electorates chose Liberal/National as their second choice, but ended up with their vote going Labor, due to their "conservative" independent now choosing Labor, after the vote.
The reason I'm still waiting is because there is none.
Sep 8th 2010, 9:27 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
I would like to see a system which has no downsides but no one has shown me it yet.
Another point is whether people vote for a party, against a party or strategically. I can understand the right crying in their milk but they would be defending the system if they won.
Either way the choices to vote for are not we want and the candidates are chosen in a less than democratic manner. Both libs are labour have almighty issues with stacking, drop ins and favouritism. We are left with candidates who may support a couple of our ideas but are more interested in climbing the party apparatus. And in non-marginal seats our votes count for nothing.
Another point is whether people vote for a party, against a party or strategically. I can understand the right crying in their milk but they would be defending the system if they won.
Either way the choices to vote for are not we want and the candidates are chosen in a less than democratic manner. Both libs are labour have almighty issues with stacking, drop ins and favouritism. We are left with candidates who may support a couple of our ideas but are more interested in climbing the party apparatus. And in non-marginal seats our votes count for nothing.
Sep 8th 2010, 9:30 am
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If you think ABC is a troll you are a twat of the smelliest type.
Sep 8th 2010, 9:51 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
They voted for an Independent, not someone who would align themselves with the 3rd party of their choice.
Many voters in those electorates chose Liberal/National as their second choice, but ended up with their vote going Labor, due to their "conservative" independent now choosing Labor, after the vote.
Many voters in those electorates chose Liberal/National as their second choice, but ended up with their vote going Labor, due to their "conservative" independent now choosing Labor, after the vote.
Sep 8th 2010, 9:54 am
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I am listening to Tony Blair on ABC Ch 24 at the moment ...
Can't get away from bloody politics...
Can't get away from bloody politics...
Sep 8th 2010, 9:55 am
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Sep 8th 2010, 9:58 am
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For the love of god! I can't believe I have to explain myself on this. It's called sarcasm - of course I don't think that. He/she share exactly the same opinion. I'm a troll for a stupid post - you call me a twat, do I think your a troll? Of course not - just someone who has every a valid an opinion as anyone else on here.
Peace.
Peace.
Sep 8th 2010, 9:58 am
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Sep 8th 2010, 10:00 am
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I do realise that they do put their number against that persons name, but, for the majority, they are putting those numbers in order of the party they prefer, not the local person.
Therefore, they put Labor 3rd, after Liberal/National, but ended up with someone who decided to side with Labor.
Those voters can see that, as can be seen by their comments in the papers, and will be confirmed one way or the other at the next election. Only someone pre-disposed to not want to see this, could argue it is not true.
Sep 8th 2010, 10:08 am
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Seriously ex excile that was sarcasm, not very good I know. I'm getting out of this post because it's not sensible anymore.
Sorry you took offence.
Sorry you took offence.
Sep 8th 2010, 10:14 am
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The point is, whether you realise it or not, is that many voters actually vote for the party, not the local person.
I do realise that they do put their number against that persons name, but, for the majority, they are putting those numbers in order of the party they prefer, not the local person.
Therefore, they put Labor 3rd, after Liberal/National, but ended up with someone who decided to side with Labor.
Those voters can see that, as can be seen by their comments in the papers, and will be confirmed one way or the other at the next election. Only someone pre-disposed to not want to see this, could argue it is not true.
I do realise that they do put their number against that persons name, but, for the majority, they are putting those numbers in order of the party they prefer, not the local person.
Therefore, they put Labor 3rd, after Liberal/National, but ended up with someone who decided to side with Labor.
Those voters can see that, as can be seen by their comments in the papers, and will be confirmed one way or the other at the next election. Only someone pre-disposed to not want to see this, could argue it is not true.
Last edited by ex_exile; Sep 8th 2010 at 10:23 am.