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malpjc Jul 15th 2004 9:58 am

Re: A pub with no beer
 

Originally posted by Grayling
No proper beer that is:(

This is the most depressing aspect of all for me.

I knew Australian pubs and beer were pretty awful but had forgotten how bad.

I went to a couple of decent pubs in Adelaide but apart from that found very little of inspiration.

Most pubs outside of towns are little more than post work meetimg places for men.
They are also expensive!

In fact we found all Alcohol expensive. To buy something like Coopers or squires in a pub would be at least 6 dollars and that is for a schooner (375ml I think).
The bottle shops wwere cheaper but still more than the UK. Even wine seemed to be more expensive. Very little under$15 a bottle worth drinking.
I could not bring myself to drink Tooheys and the like:scared:

Coopers is OK and I liked the stout but mainly drank Pale or sparkiling.
Sqires was OK in small doses and both the pilsner and Amber were OK. I am not sure how long I could tolerate it for.

Apart from the pubs there were the RSL clubs which varied a lot but , to be honest, were more like casinos than clubs. One,on the central coast had at least 1000 pokies and was filled with depressed looking, silent people pouring money into a machine:eek:
Don't know how I will cope with this.

May even have to go Teetotal:scared:

Help me out someone.

G:beer:
grayling , why don't you try and brew your own,if it's any good you can flog it to your mates

Peter Jul 15th 2004 10:08 am

Some seriously fundamental differences between the Australians and the British fly over your heads, don't they?

Australians do the majority of their drinking *outside*. The climate is more conducive to being outside than it is in the UK.

Australia lacks the little cosy snookums type pubs for that reason mainly. Pubs in my country are a place to congregate and down a few before going somewhere else. Most of them make no pretensions of being anything else.

In saying that, you will find a few of those bathroom sized pubs you guys enjoy so much in Tasmania.

It'll dawn on a few of you that Australia isn't Britain Jr and you shouldn't really expect it to be such.

gwrees Jul 15th 2004 10:13 am


Originally posted by Ulujain
Some seriously fundamental differences between the Australians and the British fly over your heads, don't they?

Australians do the majority of their drinking *outside*. The climate is more conducive to being outside than it is in the UK.

Australia lacks the little cosy snookums type pubs for that reason mainly. Pubs in my country are a place to congregate and down a few before going somewhere else. Most of them make no pretensions of being anything else.

In saying that, you will find a few of those bathroom sized pubs you guys enjoy so much in Tasmania.

It'll dawn on a few of you that Australia isn't Britain Jr and you shouldn't really expect it to be such.

exactly!!

The pubs where I live are shit anyway, so I wont miss 'em!
give me my garden, some mates, a fridge full of beer and a pool anyday!

Peter Jul 15th 2004 10:14 am

Re: A pub with no beer
 

Originally posted by kong
The Aussie pubs do tend to resemble "ladbrokes with a bar". Full of people pumping their wages/dole cheques in the pokies. VB/Tohheys are awful, I like real ales mostly, but if I drink lager has to be stella/becks, the Aussie stuff is awful.

Strange how the old cliche of Brits missing "real" pubs is such a true statement. One of the reasons I left the place, at 30 years old I still crave a decent social life, not some morgue the size of a warehouse light with florescent tubes.
For starters, if it's a ladbrokes with a bar, they're downing their cash on horse and greyhound racing.

There's a solution to Brits missing "real" pubs. Go back to the UK where they belong. Only an *idiot* with no comprehension of the fact they are moving to a *foreign country* where things are likely to be *different* from what they are used to, will be disappointed that nothing is the same.

Sorry if that offends anyone, but it's common sense. What makes you think one country will cater for the habits of the denizens of another?

brisnick Jul 15th 2004 11:34 am

Re: A pub with no beer
 
i mainly drink down in fortitude valley, and while the pubs are not really like english pubs, they aren't like being at the bookies either. there are some very nice bars around the area. in fact, there a lot like the 'new' chains that magically appeared in the uk, like the wetherspoons chains.

some of my favourite bars are down chapel street in south yarra, melbourne. again, not really your english pub, but they have some character, and pretty funky bars, and during the winter usually even have a roaring fire to sit around.

and from the suburban pubs in brissie, most are huge and nothing like ladbrokes. in fact, apart from out in woop-woop the only ladrokes type pub i've been in is in the west end (boundary hotel i think).

it IS a different culture here, but it can be enjoyed. i hated lager type beer before i arrived here, now i'm totally used to the taste.

still drink out of pints when i can (except in the height of the summer)



Originally posted by Ulujain
For starters, if it's a ladbrokes with a bar, they're downing their cash on horse and greyhound racing.

There's a solution to Brits missing "real" pubs. Go back to the UK where they belong. Only an *idiot* with no comprehension of the fact they are moving to a *foreign country* where things are likely to be *different* from what they are used to, will be disappointed that nothing is the same.

Sorry if that offends anyone, but it's common sense. What makes you think one country will cater for the habits of the denizens of another?

Ceri Jul 15th 2004 2:02 pm

Re: A pub with no beer
 

Originally posted by kong
The Aussie pubs do tend to resemble "ladbrokes with a bar". Full of people pumping their wages/dole cheques in the pokies. VB/Tohheys are awful, I like real ales mostly, but if I drink lager has to be stella/becks, the Aussie stuff is awful.

Strange how the old cliche of Brits missing "real" pubs is such a true statement. One of the reasons I left the place, at 30 years old I still crave a decent social life, not some morgue the size of a warehouse light with florescent tubes.
Agree. except for the VB :D I like that.. it's ok for lager ( although they label it bitter ..lol - real bitter it is not)
Everything is called beer here - it's not beer it's lager. I have trouble when I go back home because I'm so used to saying beer, it was the same in Sing - everything is labled as beer - it's not.

If you like real beer ale etc.. try tooheys old .. very nice
Guiness on tap is brewed here in Aus, same as kilkenny.. if you want the real stuff buy the cans from the bottle shops.. they are imported from Ireland. I'm Kilkenny drinker.. I drink it in my local and I can tell the difference between that and the cans I buy ( and have been told by the barmen it's brewed here) . A slab of kilkenny (imported cans)will set you back almost $70 from the bottle shops.

NickyC Jul 15th 2004 2:05 pm


Originally posted by Ulujain
Some seriously fundamental differences between the Australians and the British fly over your heads, don't they?

Australians do the majority of their drinking *outside*. The climate is more conducive to being outside than it is in the UK.

Australia lacks the little cosy snookums type pubs for that reason mainly. Pubs in my country are a place to congregate and down a few before going somewhere else. Most of them make no pretensions of being anything else.

In saying that, you will find a few of those bathroom sized pubs you guys enjoy so much in Tasmania.

It'll dawn on a few of you that Australia isn't Britain Jr and you shouldn't really expect it to be such.
You're so right Ulujain. British pubs are the way they are because they've evolved that way. People in England have always met their friends and socialised down at their local, because traditionally the houses were too small to entertain in and mostly the weather was too cold to go out in. No wonder the cosy little hostelry on the corner, with the roaring log fire became so popular on a cold winter's night. (I'm talking 18th/19th Century here, before anyone takes offence).

The space and decent weather in Australia means that the English-style neighbourhood pub has never been needed. People meet their friends at home or in the park or at the beach - you're more likely to get together at a BBQ, a cafe or restaurant than just going to a pub for a drink.

Ceri Jul 15th 2004 2:16 pm


Originally posted by nickyc
You're so right Ulujain. British pubs are the way they are because they've evolved that way. People in England have always met their friends and socialised down at their local, because traditionally the houses were too small to entertain in and mostly the weather was too cold to go out in. No wonder the cosy little hostelry on the corner, with the roaring log fire became so popular on a cold winter's night. (I'm talking 18th/19th Century here, before anyone takes offence).

The space and decent weather in Australia means that the English-style neighbourhood pub has never been needed. People meet their friends at home or in the park or at the beach - you're more likely to get together at a BBQ, a cafe or restaurant than just going to a pub for a drink.
British pubs were originally inns for travellers. where you could get a hot meal, a flagon of beer and a tart after your weary journey :D..lol. Then they developed in a lot of areas.. like in Wales.. where the blokes used to come out of the pits and have a good drink and a singsong before they went home to the nagging Mrs.

The nice thing about real old local pubs in parts of Britain, you meet some characters , all walks of life who you would never meet generally.. it's called socialising, and not sticking to usual circle of friends with their stupid BBQ's and chit chat.

Muzza04 Jul 15th 2004 2:26 pm

yeah, some real characters in glaswegian pubs

Some crack me up , but some really scary, sinister looking.

British favourite pastime...going down the pub....al the time coz it dull and raining outside.

A lot of old pubs there....Older than Australia infact.


Here in Perth, most of the character pubs are found in "settled" areas like, Freemantle and Guildford.

On the whole these types, sell a good variety, although not as various as UK.

U cant have it all. Is there good ole brit pubs in places like tenerife/greece etc? NO so why expect them in OZ.

Like the Redback and Emu Bitter meself.....VB is pish.


:beer:


Laters

Ceri Jul 15th 2004 2:54 pm


Originally posted by Muzza04
yeah, some real characters in glaswegian pubs

Some crack me up , but some really scary, sinister looking.

British favourite pastime...going down the pub....al the time coz it dull and raining outside.



Laters
speak for yourself.. I've never found rain to hurt me. There are such things as warm clothes, coats and boots.
Never been one to let rain or cold stop me from doing anything in the UK , same here - If I have a weekend planned say to Noosa national park.. and it's P8ssing down ( I mean P8ssing down, in the summer) .. I still go.. I own these things called Mac's see :D

I don't understand people who complain I can't do anything because it's raining... aye up.. you get them here too in Aus .. best time to go anywhere here when it's raining... so peaceful.. no people

LC_GH Jul 15th 2004 3:24 pm

Can't offer my advice on pubs, but Dan Murphy's bottle shops have an excellent range of beers, ales, lagers and wines. Both local and import. Very competitively priced too - can buy individual (so you can chose a mix), six pack or cases. Not sure about there locations nationwide or whether they are just around Melbourne.

Good luck

Muzza04 Jul 15th 2004 3:24 pm

yeah RAIN...I love it. Gotta a Mac too!

Precious commodity here...

Plenty in Scotland thou and probably in those welsh valleys too.

But still canny beat a pint by a cosy fire after a day working out in the rain or snow.

johanne Jul 15th 2004 5:26 pm


Originally posted by maggy
OMG

Guinness

Heaven in a glass
Yeh, you can get Guiness down here in Melbourne infact you can get most beers down here and a few pubs run bt english as well...just abit too expensive for you to fly down for a pint innit !!!!!!:beer:
BURP

Badge Jul 15th 2004 6:11 pm

We have a great pub, close to English style across the road where we live in Australia. They are a minority but they DO exist.

It's great.

Pubs are great for strangers to talk to. Not always. There are pubs everywhere in the world where people won't talk to you unless you have propped up the bar with your corns and the fish you've brought for supper, and whos shagging who for 10 years. Newcomers aren't always welcomed.

Wales have great pubs for friendliness, as has the East End of London.

In Wales, I used to go in to them drenched with sweat and rucksack sores with mates I was trg with out on the tops and the girls would be "Hello Boys!!"

BM

Grayling Jul 15th 2004 7:20 pm

Re: A pub with no beer
 

Originally posted by Ulujain
For starters, if it's a ladbrokes with a bar, they're downing their cash on horse and greyhound racing.

There's a solution to Brits missing "real" pubs. Go back to the UK where they belong. Only an *idiot* with no comprehension of the fact they are moving to a *foreign country* where things are likely to be *different* from what they are used to, will be disappointed that nothing is the same.

Sorry if that offends anyone, but it's common sense. What makes you think one country will cater for the habits of the denizens of another?
Why do you always have to get so defensive?

I *know* the countries are different. I am not an idiot.

Why should comments about the differences upset you?

Is there nothing you will miss from the US?

I will miss UK pubs. Full stop.So do others.

I will also miss the Derbyshire hills. These things are bound to happen.

What do you want us to say? Everything in Australia is wonderful??
Renounce all things British?

I think Australian 'beer, tastes like Piss. Personal opinion. You drink it if you want.

Cheers

G
:beer:


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