How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
Jan 7th 2007, 9:35 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
Noone said it was OK Arkon. Or is your sci-fi training and gunclub membership misleading you?
Jan 7th 2007, 9:39 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
....Then you get the comments about red coats.....The average American officer is jealous of Brit success and how their soldiers can manage situations their own men are incapable of.
Jan 7th 2007, 9:40 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
That reminds me, is there a Kiwi army? I honestly no nothing about it!
Jan 7th 2007, 9:47 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
The rocket launchers really can't do that much damage apart from taking out a car or a tank if lucky, a bag of fertiliser mixed with other things can do much more damage like the Bali bombings, a rocket laucher fired at a building can only take out a single floor, while a fertiliser bomb can take out an entire building.
They said a rocket laucher fired at the lucas heights nuclear reactor would have no chance of destroying or causing a leak.
They said a rocket laucher fired at the lucas heights nuclear reactor would have no chance of destroying or causing a leak.
) as the current generation are designed for tanks with a fair amount of armour and might shoot through without detonating, older antitank wpn are no good on the front of the latest tanks. Use a wpn for the wrong purpose...its this sort of misguided use that stuffs casual terroists - and lack of experience. Even a few hours in the desert at a camp may not be enough.
Jan 8th 2007, 5:53 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
Figures include the original Naval bombardment when Churchill as the then "Lord of Admiralty" decided that he could manage mostly without using ground troops. Once the Turks had blown most of his ships up it was decided to use land troops, but there was then a long wait for reinforcements to arrive during which time the Turks reinforced their troops and munitians (which they had almost exhausted blowing up the allied ships).They then sat and waited for the Allies.
Total Brit casualties was 205,000 of which 43,000 died,large numbers from disease ( I know,seems unbeleivable).
Churchill resigned after this episode (probably with a little nudge from Kitchener) and there was a ban on reporting the true Brit casualty rate.
It was the ANZACS first major involvement in WW1 and so perhaps it seemed easier to imply their lack of experience as a contributing factor and therefore the defeat became theirs.
The two things that alter history are :-
Politics and Hollywood (helped by Mel Gibson).
Jan 8th 2007, 6:09 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
So one of these things couldn't bring a plane down then?
Jan 8th 2007, 8:24 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
Further to some other posts, an Anti-Tank missile could be used to bring an aircraft down but it would have to be an extremely lucky shot. The RAF aircraft that crashed near Baghdad 2 years ago may have been hit by an RPG (Russian designed AT Missile)
The chances of hitting a commercial airliner would be very slim.
Jan 8th 2007, 10:56 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
Maybe if the it went through windows, without 'crimsafe' fly screens fitted...
Further to some other posts, an Anti-Tank missile could be used to bring an aircraft down but it would have to be an extremely lucky shot. The RAF aircraft that crashed near Baghdad 2 years ago may have been hit by an RPG (Russian designed AT Missile)
The chances of hitting a commercial airliner would be very slim.
Further to some other posts, an Anti-Tank missile could be used to bring an aircraft down but it would have to be an extremely lucky shot. The RAF aircraft that crashed near Baghdad 2 years ago may have been hit by an RPG (Russian designed AT Missile)
The chances of hitting a commercial airliner would be very slim.
Jan 8th 2007, 11:50 am
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
No problem.
Figures include the original Naval bombardment when Churchill as the then "Lord of Admiralty" decided that he could manage mostly without using ground troops. Once the Turks had blown most of his ships up it was decided to use land troops, but there was then a long wait for reinforcements to arrive during which time the Turks reinforced their troops and munitians (which they had almost exhausted blowing up the allied ships).They then sat and waited for the Allies.
Total Brit casualties was 205,000 of which 43,000 died,large numbers from disease ( I know,seems unbeleivable).
Churchill resigned after this episode (probably with a little nudge from Kitchener) and there was a ban on reporting the true Brit casualty rate.
It was the ANZACS first major involvement in WW1 and so perhaps it seemed easier to imply their lack of experience as a contributing factor and therefore the defeat became theirs.
The two things that alter history are :-
Politics and Hollywood (helped by Mel Gibson).
Figures include the original Naval bombardment when Churchill as the then "Lord of Admiralty" decided that he could manage mostly without using ground troops. Once the Turks had blown most of his ships up it was decided to use land troops, but there was then a long wait for reinforcements to arrive during which time the Turks reinforced their troops and munitians (which they had almost exhausted blowing up the allied ships).They then sat and waited for the Allies.
Total Brit casualties was 205,000 of which 43,000 died,large numbers from disease ( I know,seems unbeleivable).
Churchill resigned after this episode (probably with a little nudge from Kitchener) and there was a ban on reporting the true Brit casualty rate.
It was the ANZACS first major involvement in WW1 and so perhaps it seemed easier to imply their lack of experience as a contributing factor and therefore the defeat became theirs.
The two things that alter history are :-
Politics and Hollywood (helped by Mel Gibson).
I am talking more about the Battle of Galipoli, in which 150,000 souls lost their lives.
Lets not forget that Churchill was a very distinguished soldier, with action in the Sudan and South Africa and even the suggestion of a Victoria Cross and he was to a large degree a fall guy to those really responsible for the engagements.
Jan 8th 2007, 12:15 pm
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
In the American involvment in Sudan (Blackhawk down), the locals shot down 2 & damaged another Blackhawk helicoter using RPG7 anti-tank rockets. This was thought to be impossible as the blast out of the back of the rocket is huge & if the launcher was pointed up the blast would hit the ground & basically fry the guy holding the launcher. The Sudanese got round this by digging a deep hole & the rocket blast went into this. Crude but effective.
Jan 8th 2007, 12:24 pm
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Re: How did the Oz army lose 6 anti tank rocket launchers?
In the American involvment in Sudan (Blackhawk down), the locals shot down 2 & damaged another Blackhawk helicoter using RPG7 anti-tank rockets. This was thought to be impossible as the blast out of the back of the rocket is huge & if the launcher was pointed up the blast would hit the ground & basically fry the guy holding the launcher. The Sudanese got round this by digging a deep hole & the rocket blast went into this. Crude but effective.
