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Re: helping each other
Are there any martyr T shirts for people who like to be seen to be helpful?
You know the ones, they say "look at me, I know it all, I have it all, I am lovely, all the poms who complain are dickheads" This thread has been started for people who want to help others for no gain, no profit, no accolades, no business venture. Everyone has a choice here. They either want to do it or not. There are also different degrees of help i.e some have offered to give advice if/when required, whilst others are happy to provide a roof to a new migrant. That's everyone's choice. As grown adults, everyone here knows the consequence i.e it might not always work out and some people may take advantage. This thread has great potential and it's been started so as to help people in their time of need. By all means let people know the pitfalls, but stop trying to piss on the good people's bonfire. There are some genuine people out there who are prepared to help for no gain whatsoever and no ulterior motive. There are some people out there who will take advantage as they see helping as a position of power, it makes them head of a clique. But there are many, many more who are genuinely lovely people who need help and there are many, many more who are prepared to give it. For nothing. No power, no money and no recognition. Not everyone pretends to be a martyr. And not everyone takes advantage. |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Are there any martyr T shirts for people who like to be seen to be helpful?
You know the ones, they say "look at me, I know it all, I have it all, I am lovely, all the poms who complain are dickheads" This thread has been started for people who want to help others for no gain, no profit, no accolades, no business venture. Everyone has a choice here. They either want to do it or not. There are also different degrees of help i.e some have offered to give advice if/when required, whilst others are happy to provide a roof to a new migrant. That's everyone's choice. As grown adults, everyone here knows the consequence i.e it might not always work out and some people may take advantage. This thread has great potential and it's been started so as to help people in their time of need. By all means let people know the pitfalls, but stop trying to piss on the good people's bonfire. There are some genuine people out there who are prepared to help for no gain whatsoever and no ulterior motive. There are some people out there who will take advantage as they see helping as a position of power, it makes them head of a clique. But there are many, many more who are genuinely lovely people who need help and there are many, many more who are prepared to give it. For nothing. No power, no money and no recognition. Not everyone pretends to be a martyr. And not everyone takes advantage. Donna. |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by madsad
Well said.
Donna. You of anyone know the consequences as you had a tough time with people taking advantage. However after all you went through, I notice you are still prepared to help people in terms of giving help and advice. And that's the point I was making;) People like you who are prepared to give something for nowt. No gain, no profit, no accolades, no *T-Shirts*.... Good on ya:beer: |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Are there any martyr T shirts for people who like to be seen to be helpful?
You know the ones, they say "look at me, I know it all, I have it all, I am lovely, all the poms who complain are dickheads" This thread has been started for people who want to help others for no gain, no profit, no accolades, no business venture. Everyone has a choice here. They either want to do it or not. There are also different degrees of help i.e some have offered to give advice if/when required, whilst others are happy to provide a roof to a new migrant. That's everyone's choice. As grown adults, everyone here knows the consequence i.e it might not always work out and some people may take advantage. This thread has great potential and it's been started so as to help people in their time of need. By all means let people know the pitfalls, but stop trying to piss on the good people's bonfire. There are some genuine people out there who are prepared to help for no gain whatsoever and no ulterior motive. There are some people out there who will take advantage as they see helping as a position of power, it makes them head of a clique. But there are many, many more who are genuinely lovely people who need help and there are many, many more who are prepared to give it. For nothing. No power, no money and no recognition. Not everyone pretends to be a martyr. And not everyone takes advantage. You have no idea what some people have gone through, and it is obviously not for general consumption. Warning people that offers of help can sometimes come back and slap you in the face for whatever reason is no different from posters saying that Australia is not the be all and end all. No one has pretended to be a martyr and no one has said "everyone takes advantage". :rolleyes: |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by cranni
Right i know this will cause a bit of a stir, but i have just read a couple of threads on here, new expats starting out their new life.
Why is there no one at the other end to help them, your all good at giving advice, now put it into practice. I have had expats come over and stay with us, and be there for them, dont you remember how hard it was at first because i do. We are picking up a family from airport 2 hours away next week, 1 in the morning, and they will stay with us until they find somewhere. I have found rentals for people, and just been a friendly face at the other end. I know a lot of others help out as well, so why are there families coming over and nobody there for them. Come on lets just try and help a bit more. Denise Just thought I would let you know that you are not the only one! We are in the process of helping an English couple whowere originally going to Geelong but are now taking over our rental house when they arrive this wednesday. I have sorted out furniture for them so they have everything they need, beds, lent them our doona etc. I have taken endless videos of Anglesea so they can see the town they are moving too, sent them job adverts, inquired about their jobs in various places. When they arrive they will have the local job paper here waiting, food in their fridge etc. Jo said it was such a relief knowing they were coming here and they "knew" someone who was helping. I am so excited to finally meet them on Wednesday! I would love to help anyone who is moving down to this area...The GReat Ocean Road ....South Victoria. Fantastic idea of yours. Elly |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Are there any martyr T shirts for people who like to be seen to be helpful?
You know the ones, they say "look at me, I know it all, I have it all, I am lovely, all the poms who complain are dickheads" This thread has been started for people who want to help others for no gain, no profit, no accolades, no business venture. Everyone has a choice here. They either want to do it or not. There are also different degrees of help i.e some have offered to give advice if/when required, whilst others are happy to provide a roof to a new migrant. That's everyone's choice. As grown adults, everyone here knows the consequence i.e it might not always work out and some people may take advantage. This thread has great potential and it's been started so as to help people in their time of need. By all means let people know the pitfalls, but stop trying to piss on the good people's bonfire. There are some genuine people out there who are prepared to help for no gain whatsoever and no ulterior motive. There are some people out there who will take advantage as they see helping as a position of power, it makes them head of a clique. But there are many, many more who are genuinely lovely people who need help and there are many, many more who are prepared to give it. For nothing. No power, no money and no recognition. Not everyone pretends to be a martyr. And not everyone takes advantage. |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by moneypen20
Get off your high horse Phoenix :rolleyes: No one has said they want "gain, no profit, or accolades". You should also know before jumping in with the holier than thou attitude, that the people who have mentioned gently that things can go wrong, have put their names on the contact list.
You have no idea what some people have gone through, and it is obviously not for general consumption. Warning people that offers of help can sometimes come back and slap you in the face for whatever reason is no different from posters saying that Australia is not the be all and end all. No one has pretended to be a martyr and no one has said "everyone takes advantage". :rolleyes: So well said moneypen20!!! Cld not have put it better myself! We had a lot of help from Janey last year, and thanked her over and over again, when we met, we gave each other the biggest bear hugs and again many 'thank you for your help'. It is something we needed to do cause we appreciated her help so very much. That is all we are asking, a 'thank you' or some sort of acknowledgement that our time and effort, ie giving up our only day off at weekends to get info, take pics, send stuff, job seek, house seek, etc etc was worth it. I'm sorry, but you do get to feel a bit 'used' after a while, is only natural. Some people cant wait to 'sponge' you for all the info you can give them, and then, after the first initial contact after landing, thats it - we dont exist anymore :( If that doesn't get to you know who, then she must be a bloody saint thats all I know :mad: We understand, we would not get on with everybody we help, but when they say, 'oh, we dont know anybody in Cairns, it would be great to meet up with you guys when we land, would mean so much to us, would be brilliant if you could help us with areas to look at houses etc etc etc' then, NOTHING! Why bother - we wait thinking, we will keep this weekend free in case they phone up and want us to show them around - but why - I'll tell you why - BECAUSE WE ARE NICE PEOPLE thats bloody why!!!!! Enough said |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
I've got a whole wardrobe full - does that make me odds on favourite for president? :p
so far im a close second with bordy in about third, with the madsads bring up the rear. welcome to or club ;) |
Re: helping each other
get bix back on the pc and tell him not to let u near it again........moan moan moan moan moan :p :D
Originally Posted by Bix da Boss
So well said moneypen20!!! Cld not have put it better myself!
We had a lot of help from Janey last year, and thanked her over and over again, when we met, we gave each other the biggest bear hugs and again many 'thank you for your help'. It is something we needed to do cause we appreciated her help so very much. That is all we are asking, a 'thank you' or some sort of acknowledgement that our time and effort, ie giving up our only day off at weekends to get info, take pics, send stuff, job seek, house seek, etc etc was worth it. I'm sorry, but you do get to feel a bit 'used' after a while, is only natural. Some people cant wait to 'sponge' you for all the info you can give them, and then, after the first initial contact after landing, thats it - we dont exist anymore :( If that doesn't get to you know who, then she must be a bloody saint thats all I know :mad: We understand, we would not get on with everybody we help, but when they say, 'oh, we dont know anybody in Cairns, it would be great to meet up with you guys when we land, would mean so much to us, would be brilliant if you could help us with areas to look at houses etc etc etc' then, NOTHING! Why bother - we wait thinking, we will keep this weekend free in case they phone up and want us to show them around - but why - I'll tell you why - BECAUSE WE ARE NICE PEOPLE thats bloody why!!!!! Enough said |
Re: helping each other
all good points mate. the point i am making is.
be prepared to get hurt. thats all ;) oh and i am not trying to piss on the good people's bonfire. :( you at least should know im not like that !
Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Are there any martyr T shirts for people who like to be seen to be helpful?
You know the ones, they say "look at me, I know it all, I have it all, I am lovely, all the poms who complain are dickheads" This thread has been started for people who want to help others for no gain, no profit, no accolades, no business venture. Everyone has a choice here. They either want to do it or not. There are also different degrees of help i.e some have offered to give advice if/when required, whilst others are happy to provide a roof to a new migrant. That's everyone's choice. As grown adults, everyone here knows the consequence i.e it might not always work out and some people may take advantage. This thread has great potential and it's been started so as to help people in their time of need. By all means let people know the pitfalls, but stop trying to piss on the good people's bonfire. There are some genuine people out there who are prepared to help for no gain whatsoever and no ulterior motive. There are some people out there who will take advantage as they see helping as a position of power, it makes them head of a clique. But there are many, many more who are genuinely lovely people who need help and there are many, many more who are prepared to give it. For nothing. No power, no money and no recognition. Not everyone pretends to be a martyr. And not everyone takes advantage. |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by soapy
get bix back on the pc and tell him not to let u near it again........moan moan moan moan moan :p :D
:D :p :D :beer: |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by Bix da Boss
:D :p :D :beer:
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Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by moneypen20
Get off your high horse Phoenix :rolleyes: No one has said they want "gain, profit or accolades". You should also know before jumping in with the holier than thou attitude, that the people who have mentioned gently that things can go wrong, have put their names on the contact list.
You have no idea what some people have gone through, and it is obviously not for general consumption. Warning people that offers of help can sometimes come back and slap you in the face for whatever reason is no different from posters saying that Australia is not the be all and end all. No one has pretended to be a martyr and no one has said "everyone takes advantage". :rolleyes: Unless of course you are one of those guilty as charged:rolleyes: There is no problem with warning others of what may go wrong, but don't friggin make yourself out to be bleedin martyrs for helping others. Some do it for self gain or to elevate themselves within the *clique*:rolleyes: People are not stupid. They know it can go wrong. Although it's good to tell them, don't pretend to be martyrs for offering a helping hand. That's all I was saying:) |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by soapy
all good points mate. the point i am making is.
be prepared to get hurt. thats all ;) oh and i am not trying to piss on the good people's bonfire. :( you at least should know im not like that ! |
Re: helping each other
Originally Posted by Bix da Boss
So well said moneypen20!!! Cld not have put it better myself!
We had a lot of help from Janey last year, and thanked her over and over again, when we met, we gave each other the biggest bear hugs and again many 'thank you for your help'. It is something we needed to do cause we appreciated her help so very much. That is all we are asking, a 'thank you' or some sort of acknowledgement that our time and effort, ie giving up our only day off at weekends to get info, take pics, send stuff, job seek, house seek, etc etc was worth it. I'm sorry, but you do get to feel a bit 'used' after a while, is only natural. Some people cant wait to 'sponge' you for all the info you can give them, and then, after the first initial contact after landing, thats it - we dont exist anymore :( If that doesn't get to you know who, then she must be a bloody saint thats all I know :mad: We understand, we would not get on with everybody we help, but when they say, 'oh, we dont know anybody in Cairns, it would be great to meet up with you guys when we land, would mean so much to us, would be brilliant if you could help us with areas to look at houses etc etc etc' then, NOTHING! Why bother - we wait thinking, we will keep this weekend free in case they phone up and want us to show them around - but why - I'll tell you why - BECAUSE WE ARE NICE PEOPLE thats bloody why!!!!! Enough said This thread is about the majority of people who come to Aus and need genuine help. It's also about some offering help, no strings attached. That should be the sum of it:) |
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