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Old Jun 27th 2010 | 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
I rather doubt that. Most people "down the pub" wouldn't recognise an ideological initiative if it danced naked in front of them for an hour and a half.
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Old Jun 27th 2010 | 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by salopian
Oh goody goody. Someone who thinks they're really, really clever.

May I stroke your ego?

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Old Jun 27th 2010 | 4:24 pm
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Old Jun 28th 2010 | 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Watch this country die a slow death... I'm surprised at my own reaction, but seriously this country will just shrink with no mass Immigration
I accept that immigration does have an effect on economic growth, but careful and well-planned government of the country can still ensure prosperity.

I'm not in favour of mass immigration because you only have to look elsewhere to realise how it affects society.
 
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I accept that immigration does have an effect on economic growth, but careful and well-planned government of the country can still ensure prosperity.

I'm not in favour of mass immigration because you only have to look elsewhere to realise how it affects society.
I agree. And if it's true that the Australian population has increased by a staggering 24% in just 14 years then I would say that a very careful review and slowing down of immigration is urgently needed.
 
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This 'mass immigration' thing is an attempt by politicians to increase their power, and Australia's, on the international stage IMO. Why else do they come up with it?

What is the point of having borders or a nation-state if people can come and go so easily?

It also muddies the concept of 'Australian', since it's inhabited by people from all cultures and backgrounds around the world.

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Old Jun 28th 2010 | 10:21 am
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Surely a joke?
 
Old Jun 28th 2010 | 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by 38141
What is the point of having borders or a nation-state if people can come and go so easily?
People really cannot come and go "so easily" as all that, but it is important for trade that people can move relatively freely about the world.

It also muddies the concept of 'Australian', since it's inhabited by people from all cultures and backgrounds around the world.
What is the concept of "Australian"? I see no reason why any culture or background should be barred from becoming "Australian".
 
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Surely a joke?
Well it made me laugh.



I now await some smart arse comment from yourself along the lines of simple things amusing simple minds.
 
Old Jun 28th 2010 | 10:32 am
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Well it made me laugh.



I now await some smart arse comment from yourself along the lines of simple things amusing simple minds.
Well simple things do amuse simple minds.
 
Old Jun 28th 2010 | 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
Well simple things do amuse simple minds.
There we go... you must feel so much better for that.... and with that I have to say that you have successfully bored the crap out of me. So much so that I'm going to put you on my ignore list. It's a very select list and only those guilty of excessive tedium make it on the list.

So far its a list of one.
 
Old Jun 28th 2010 | 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
There we go... you must feel so much better for that.... and with that I have to say that you have successfully bored the crap out of me. So much so that I'm going to put you on my ignore list. It's a very select list and only those guilty of excessive tedium make it on the list.

So far its a list of one.
Thank god for that. So you won't be able to make any further asinine comments on my posts, including this one - fingers crossed!
 
Old Jun 28th 2010 | 11:31 am
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Default Re: Gillard ends Big Australia drive...

Originally Posted by Seneca21
Thank god for that. So you won't be able to make any further asinine comments on my posts, including this one - fingers crossed!
I'm not entirely sure whats been going on here but, you are wrong about the states, its not so much corruption as its a whole level of unneeded bureaucracy that costs us billions.

Back in 1901, huge country, unreliable communications,18th century technology and the legacy colonies a state based federation makes sense but if you were setting up Australia today you would do it differently.
 
Old Jun 28th 2010 | 12:01 pm
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I'm not entirely sure whats been going on here but, you are wrong about the states, its not so much corruption as its a whole level of unneeded bureaucracy that costs us billions.
Agreed.

The Powers that Be need to encourage employers to offer more apprenticeships and training rather than relying on importing workers from overseas. IMO they do it to keep the wages down.

I can't see anything wrong with looking to be sustainable with regard to population growth, very sensible.
 
Old Jun 28th 2010 | 12:16 pm
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Agreed.

The Powers that Be need to encourage employers to offer more apprenticeships and training rather than relying on importing workers from overseas. IMO they do it to keep the wages down.

I can't see anything wrong with looking to be sustainable with regard to population growth, very sensible.
Yes, but these apprenticeships and traineeships need to have meaningful and relevant training. From what I have seen, the standard of training that these guys receive is woeful. I am not overly impressed by the standard of electrical engineering taught at TAFE either. They do all sorts of bullshit like communications, IT etc but when I ask them to explain electrical impedance for example, they haven't got a clue.
 


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