BLOODY HELL LADS!!

hey,hey,hey [said in a scouser accent ] Stop this talk about banning

Everyone has a right to their views, and apart from the fact you guys never agree on things, why should you be banned

Why don't you both get a drink. Beer for you Arkon as you're in Aus and a cuppa tea for Vash cos you're in UK and calm down, calm down [scouser accent again ]

Seriously, it's good to hear differences in opinion, but you don't have to get banned for it

Of course.

Apology accepted. Now if Arkon, Stanton and the rest of the Dead Poets Society could apologise to me as well, then we can call it day, go home and catch the Lotto rollover.

Agreed. Differences of opinon are actually necessary. This helps provide a spectrum of opinon for the potential new migrant or newly settled migrant to consider.

That’s ok Tappa, no apologies needed. But I think you need to translate that last post for me as most of it just flew over my head and smacked the dog in the head. I’ve now got to go and rub some ointment on it.

What a shame it's not something more simple.

I have been in Aus many times and have come up against the odd person with the sort of attitude that made me want to run for the hills, but I have found them in the UK too.

I'm now living in the Blue Mountains and sure it's got it's problems (Social ones in Katoomba especially) but generally the attitude is one of 'battling' and succeeding against the odds around here. I wonder if you wouldn't be more comfortable in another part of Australia. Northern NSW doesn't suit obviously, but Northern NSW isn't 'ALL AUSTRALIANS', it's actually a tiny minority. There are so many facets of Australia that it's terribly difficult to button hole people as all having incompatible values and morals with yourself, surely?

I guess you know the people around you, but have you tried anywhere else? Have you met other Australians? I love the people up here for example - they're so strong... They'll get on and succeed because it's the way of folk up here.
It's also, interestingly, got a very European feel. There are many ten pound poms up here, as well as Dutch, German, French, Swiss, etc etc. All in all, you could say that it's very European in feel, but they are still Australian... they're what has made up this area and what has shaped it's paths.
I am not here because it 'feels' European, more that I am here because it's where family lives. I guess I'd make a go of it wherever they lived, because the family aspect is more important to me than the surroundings.

IF you ever come up for a visit, drop in and have a drink. We're more than happy to introduce you to where we live. Not all Aussies are the same.

Ok if it makes your happy, I appologise to you hutch but I'm not sure for what tho. A bit like rubbing the dogs nose in a big Mr Whippy on the rug, He has no idea why you just did it.

LOL, glad to see you have a sense of humour there Hutch. By the way did you see my other post, re: your blog ? I was just wondering if you felt any closer to deciding where you will live here yet?

Who mentioned banning?? Words are being had with people who hurl personal abuse and said people are apologising.
Nuff said, no need for banning as long as everyone gets back to the topic of whether Arkon can be self-sufficient on oil, and whether you can roast alpacas........oh, and lets not forget the price of fruit........

We have given serious thought to other areas of Oz, but I through business dealings here have had a fair bit of contact with Australians far and wide in this pleasant land and it's fair to say that my experiences only added to the preasure to move back. I know all Ozzies are not the same but there are too many of them that annoy the bo-diddlies out of me, here and elsewhere in Oz that basically gives us no hope that life wont be such an uphill struggle somewhere else.

PMSL I hope thats the dog you're referring to with "rub the ointment on it"

Oh, yes Bananas. Forgot all about them for a minute. Who would have thought a humble $10 a kilo Banana could start world war 3.

Well this thread has certainly been hectic, but it's nice to see apologies have been given and received.

I don't intend banning anyone at this moment in time, because where I live it's still breakfast and I am currently eating a bowl of the US equivalent of sugar puffs.

Good morning/afternoon/evening/night to all

..... and with that I will close this thread.

Sue