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Old Feb 29th 2008 | 11:08 pm
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Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
I like Perth and Australia but it is frequently a very close run thing as to whether we should stay here. Given everything I've moaned about recently and the fact that with hindsight I was very lucky to get the job I've got and it could easily have gone the other way, and the fact that I'm continually plagued with guilt about my parents and their relationship with my kids....I don't know....

If you're from South Africa, or Sudan - no contest - but the UK..........

Making the move now? Nope.
when we migrated it was more that we wanted to have a look. to see what was out there. there was a curiousity within us both. could we do it. is there something else. yes money plays a card but is that the reason why we do this? at the end of the day you get roughly 75 years of this adventure we call life.
 
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One thing i know and sure all will agree is that money means so many different things to people

Some people dont care if there broke and there still happy other are purely motivated by money.

My mate asked for a fiver off me a few weeks back.

Thats all the money he had, living month to month on his wages.

Rents a room in a flat and 27 years old

His possessions might only add upto a few hundred quid if your lucky.

Happy as a pig in shit
 
Old Feb 29th 2008 | 11:28 pm
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if somebody says thay money is not so important like lifestyle so try to live without money, and then enjoy this australian lifestyle
 
Old Feb 29th 2008 | 11:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Rich_Lyn
We came over with a view of not having a mortgage and now are faced with having one @$500K!. This will still be cheaper than renting! :
How do you figure that out? Unless you're renting prime real estate in the middle of the CBD, how can a mortgage of $500k be cheaper than renting?

The lifestyle aspects you mention are great and though I'd question whether there is 'less crime' (than the UK), I agree wholeheartedly that you cannot put a price on the life experience that your kids will benefit from as a result of spending some time, however long, living 'overseas'.
 
Old Feb 29th 2008 | 11:50 pm
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A QUESTION FOR MR KEVIN RUDD

THE DRIVERS OF INFLATION ARE RESISTANT TO INTREST RATE RISES

SO WHY DO YO KEEP PUSHING THEM UP

IT AINT WORKING


The Australian newspaper quote
 
Old Feb 29th 2008 | 11:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Conrad242
if somebody says thay money is not so important like lifestyle so try to live without money, and then enjoy this australian lifestyle
exactly
 
Old Feb 29th 2008 | 11:57 pm
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I feel that people making negative comments about others who have concerns about making the move are either..

1. In ozz already loaded or skint.

2. Here in the UK skint so not giving a monkeys
 
Old Mar 1st 2008 | 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by stariston
A QUESTION FOR MR KEVIN RUDD

THE DRIVERS OF INFLATION ARE RESISTANT TO INTREST RATE RISES

SO WHY DO YO KEEP PUSHING THEM UP

IT AINT WORKING


The Australian newspaper quote
I'm amazed by this quote. The RBA is driving up interest rates - supposedly independent of the govt.
 
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Originally Posted by paul76
One thing i know and sure all will agree is that money means so many different things to people

Some people dont care if there broke and there still happy other are purely motivated by money.

My mate asked for a fiver off me a few weeks back.

Thats all the money he had, living month to month on his wages.

Rents a room in a flat and 27 years old

His possessions might only add upto a few hundred quid if your lucky.

Happy as a pig in shit

so was i when i was young with no kids, infact when i was 25 i wasnt long back from aus and skint, couldnt care less, only myself to worry about.......

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Old Mar 1st 2008 | 1:35 am
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Got to factor in the cost of a V8 muscle car, ute, dirt bike, boat, fishies gear, maintenance of obligatory mullet and ZZ top beard and squillion inch plasma TV

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Originally Posted by tictac
Holed-up in a rental, lining the pockets of a greedy, anonymous, faceless landlord?
Why would anybody want to do that in the long term?
Holed-up in a massively mortgaged property, lining the pockets of greedy, anonymous, facelessbankers, with massive interest payments?

Why would anybody want to do that in the short term?



p.s. even worse if the bl00dy thing is losing its value, i am off to hide for cover?
 
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Originally Posted by brendarover
Holed-up in a massively mortgaged property, lining the pockets of greedy, anonymous, facelessbankers, with massive interest payments?

Why would anybody want to do that in the short term?



p.s. even worse if the bl00dy thing is losing its value, i am off to hide for cover?
well said (I'll hide with you)
 
Old Mar 1st 2008 | 5:57 am
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Everyone has valid points and what they consider to be very important. But at the end of the day you have to do what's best for you and your family.

My OH spends 7 days a week working to pay for the things we have. Then there is the train journey every morning and home every night. The dark winters mean you are practically ready for bed when you get home! Also the cold and rain is rubbish when you have a bored 2 year old who loves the outdoors and just wants to run around. Small gardens, beaches that are too far away and mostly pebbled, people at every turn. It's a rat race and everyone is trying so very hard to get somewhere!

I work full time too and whilst I get home at a reasonable time, family time is at a premium. There is not much to do that doesn't involve going to the pub. I lived in South Africa for my whole childhood until I was 18, I know my daughter is missing out.

Yes we will have to make sacrifices, but we are currently sacrificing my daughter's childhood and future and for what? I like to have nice things and plenty of money is fantastic, but I would give all of that up in a heartbeat.

We slog our guts out for what we have in the UK, long hours, poor pay rises, rising taxes and interest rates. The grass isn't always greener but maybe in some ways it is? From everything I've read the lifestyle and weather more than make up for the other down sides.

If you had the choice of being miserable in the UK or miserable in Australia, I know where I'd rather be miserable!

As long as you take off the rose tinted glasses before you make your decision, you will most likely make the best decision for you and your family. Whether that is in the UK or in Oz, only you can know for sure!

We're Oz bound but not for a little while yet so maybe things will be different when we come to making the move, but in the meantime, getting the visa is important and planning for the future. Rather that than sitting here unhappy and in a rut.

I think that people's responses on here are as a result of being disappointed. It would be lovely to think that there is an easier and cheaper life elsewhere and sometimes that's what keeps us going. Nothing in life comes easy, but if you think that for one minute your life will be better in Oz than in the UK, you'd be crazy not to jump at the chance.

Good luck to everyone though, I hope you find your right answer! The decision is probably one of the biggest you will ever make!
 
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Originally Posted by Janna and Nick
Everyone has valid points and what they consider to be very important. But at the end of the day you have to do what's best for you and your family.

My OH spends 7 days a week working to pay for the things we have. Then there is the train journey every morning and home every night. The dark winters mean you are practically ready for bed when you get home! Also the cold and rain is rubbish when you have a bored 2 year old who loves the outdoors and just wants to run around. Small gardens, beaches that are too far away and mostly pebbled, people at every turn. It's a rat race and everyone is trying so very hard to get somewhere!

I work full time too and whilst I get home at a reasonable time, family time is at a premium. There is not much to do that doesn't involve going to the pub. I lived in South Africa for my whole childhood until I was 18, I know my daughter is missing out.

Yes we will have to make sacrifices, but we are currently sacrificing my daughter's childhood and future and for what? I like to have nice things and plenty of money is fantastic, but I would give all of that up in a heartbeat.

We slog our guts out for what we have in the UK, long hours, poor pay rises, rising taxes and interest rates. The grass isn't always greener but maybe in some ways it is? From everything I've read the lifestyle and weather more than make up for the other down sides.

If you had the choice of being miserable in the UK or miserable in Australia, I know where I'd rather be miserable!

As long as you take off the rose tinted glasses before you make your decision, you will most likely make the best decision for you and your family. Whether that is in the UK or in Oz, only you can know for sure!

We're Oz bound but not for a little while yet so maybe things will be different when we come to making the move, but in the meantime, getting the visa is important and planning for the future. Rather that than sitting here unhappy and in a rut.

I think that people's responses on here are as a result of being disappointed. It would be lovely to think that there is an easier and cheaper life elsewhere and sometimes that's what keeps us going. Nothing in life comes easy, but if you think that for one minute your life will be better in Oz than in the UK, you'd be crazy not to jump at the chance.

Good luck to everyone though, I hope you find your right answer! The decision is probably one of the biggest you will ever make!
Good post
 
Old Mar 1st 2008 | 6:19 am
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Originally Posted by Rich_Lyn
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We came over with a view of not having a mortgage and now are faced with having one @$500K!. This will still be cheaper than renting! One thing to bear in mind when buying a house is that you must not make the wrong decision as stamp duty and agents fees are huge. (EG Stamp duty on $1m will be @$50K+)
Is there a particular reason why you have to spend $1m on a house. What area are you looking at.

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