Don't Come to Australia
Mar 26th 2010, 10:55 pm
#407
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
Okay I'll do this slowly.
You said "If I am showing myself up by standing up for my beliefs, then so be it. Rather that than by being racist, nationalistic,xenophobic, bigoted...
whatever you choose to call it to lessen it's effect!"
Note the words "rather than" which suggested that you would rather be something other than a racist, nationalistic,xenophobic, bigoted... or whayever.
However you earlier responded to Polly's comment saying she wasn't offended by MP's comment by saying "I'm glad you do not have a problem with it. Your blood must have been diluted with English/German blood", which appeares to be suggesting that she has no problem with the comment as she is not pure blood Welsh i.e. that her blood has been diluted with English/German blood.
That to me sounded like a boderline 'nationalistic,xenophobic, bigoted... whatever' statement.
I have made no comment on the genetics of anyone being borderline.
You said "If I am showing myself up by standing up for my beliefs, then so be it. Rather that than by being racist, nationalistic,xenophobic, bigoted...
whatever you choose to call it to lessen it's effect!"
Note the words "rather than" which suggested that you would rather be something other than a racist, nationalistic,xenophobic, bigoted... or whayever.
However you earlier responded to Polly's comment saying she wasn't offended by MP's comment by saying "I'm glad you do not have a problem with it. Your blood must have been diluted with English/German blood", which appeares to be suggesting that she has no problem with the comment as she is not pure blood Welsh i.e. that her blood has been diluted with English/German blood.
That to me sounded like a boderline 'nationalistic,xenophobic, bigoted... whatever' statement.
I have made no comment on the genetics of anyone being borderline.
It was meant to be nationalistic,xenophobic, bigoted or even racist! Since nobody cares what is posted it seems, I thought I would join in!
Mar 26th 2010, 11:04 pm
#408
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
I didn't want to get into the debate about the definition of racist. It obviously means different things in different contexts so for people to put their point across or to negate their interlocutor's point they just change the context. And hey presto, everyone is right and every one is wrong.
Last edited by MartinLuther; Mar 26th 2010 at 11:09 pm.
Mar 27th 2010, 4:14 am
#409
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
I think post 318 can be read many ways. Bringing in the genetics thing in after asking why I said it was borderline suggested that the statement was answering the question.
I didn't want to get into the debate about the definition of racist. It obviously means different things in different contexts so for people to put their point across or to negate their interlocutor's point they just change the context. And hey presto, everyone is right and every one is wrong.
I didn't want to get into the debate about the definition of racist. It obviously means different things in different contexts so for people to put their point across or to negate their interlocutor's point they just change the context. And hey presto, everyone is right and every one is wrong.
Mar 27th 2010, 5:13 am
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
But of course only certain people can be right. Their ignorance to anything outside their own little bubble ensures that their views remain insular and prejudice. Anyone who dares rattle their cage by disagreeing with their supposed light hearted attempts at nationalism or prejudice is met with almost disbelief. This quickly turns nasty and abusive when they realise the other person will not back down.
Mar 27th 2010, 5:46 am
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
Harbouring a grudge about stuff from 600+ years ago!
Mar 27th 2010, 6:06 am
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Mar 27th 2010, 6:10 am
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
Mar 27th 2010, 6:27 am
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
It gave rise to the infamous Not The Nine O'clock News parody of the old NCB Real fire advert. "Come Home To A Real Fire.... Buy A Cottage in Wales"
Mar 27th 2010, 7:55 am
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
It was all those, well both, radical Welsh nationalist extremists, they burned down "several" second homes in the Welsh valleys owned by English folk. In return for a promise of 72 Beulah Speckled Face's
It gave rise to the infamous Not The Nine O'clock News parody of the old NCB Real fire advert. "Come Home To A Real Fire.... Buy A Cottage in Wales"
It gave rise to the infamous Not The Nine O'clock News parody of the old NCB Real fire advert. "Come Home To A Real Fire.... Buy A Cottage in Wales"
Not so funny now eh?
A pub in North Pembs was apparently bombed as part of that campaign but it turned out to be an insurance job. I'm not sure there was one genuine case in Pembs. But I've not done an extensive study.
Last edited by MartinLuther; Mar 27th 2010 at 7:58 am.
Mar 27th 2010, 8:12 am
#418
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Re: Don't Come to Australia
why cant we all just get along
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