debts or not
Mar 16th 2010, 1:39 am
#121
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Re: debts or not
As a side note, I have not heard of anybody being actually imprisoned for not paying the TV licence fee. They make a lot of threats about a £1000 fine but imprisonment, I think not. I have only heard of one case of a person going to prision to non-payment of council tax and that person was a protester and went to prison to make a statement.
Mar 16th 2010, 1:40 am
#122
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Re: debts or not
Aye, the satisfaction of clearing $60,000 of credit card debt AND learning to manage money (so I don't get in the same position again) outweighs the dubious pleasure of 'sticking it to the man'.
I'd wager that people that do this kind of thing are in for similar issues further down to track. If you don't learn from your mistakes then yer doomed to repeat them and all that ...
I'd wager that people that do this kind of thing are in for similar issues further down to track. If you don't learn from your mistakes then yer doomed to repeat them and all that ...
Mar 16th 2010, 1:45 am
#123
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Re: debts or not
They are imprisoned for tax evasion which is a completely different thing to theft and they are only imprisoned if it is proven that they were actually evading paying the tax and not because they couldn't afford to. It's more likey that the local councils will commence bankruptcy proceedings against. If I was you I would learn a bit about the law before commenting on a subject you clearly know nothing about.
As a side note, I have not heard of anybody being actually imprisoned for not paying the TV licence fee. They make a lot of threats about a £1000 fine but imprisonment, I think not. I have only heard of one case of a person going to prision to non-payment of council tax and that person was a protester and went to prison to make a statement.
As a side note, I have not heard of anybody being actually imprisoned for not paying the TV licence fee. They make a lot of threats about a £1000 fine but imprisonment, I think not. I have only heard of one case of a person going to prision to non-payment of council tax and that person was a protester and went to prison to make a statement.
Mar 16th 2010, 1:49 am
#124
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Re: debts or not
Firstly, Police don't have anything to do with civil debt. So, if Police were there it was nothing to do with debt. If a debt was from a court judgement then the Sheriffs will get involved. They do a similar job to the court bailiffs in the UK.
Most of these debt collection firms are full of sh!t. Everything that comes out of their mouth is nothing more than rubbish intended to scare people into paying when there isn't a legal obligation.
Most of these debt collection firms are full of sh!t. Everything that comes out of their mouth is nothing more than rubbish intended to scare people into paying when there isn't a legal obligation.
The last we heard of our tenant, was a hearing date for the local courts for Fraud, maybe thats why the police were there. Maybe taking a loan then not paying it fraud? I have no idea.
It would appear that many companies owed money dont just go 'oh well we wont worry about that
' they take action eventually escalating the steps to legal action. The local council here takes legal action against people who dont pay up on lost library books
I assume then if someones skipped a debt worth more than a hardcopy of harry potter, many companies do try to recover it. And from the experience with our tenant its pretty obvious they dont just overlook it. However no doubt there are companies out there who just dont worry about upnpaid bills
local councils and electricity companies and banks dont seem to be among them.
Mar 16th 2010, 1:58 am
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Re: debts or not
The last we heard of our tenant, was a hearing date for the local courts for Fraud, maybe thats why the police were there. Maybe taking a loan then not paying it fraud? I have no idea.
It would appear that many companies owed money dont just go 'oh well we wont worry about that' they take action eventually escalating the steps to legal action.
The local council here takes legal action against people who dont pay up on lost library books I assume then if someones skipped a debt worth more than a hardcopy of harry potter, many companies do try to recover it. And from the experience with our tenant its pretty obvious they dont just overlook it.
However no doubt there are companies out there who just dont worry about upnpaid bills local councils and electricity companies and banks dont seem to be among them.
It would appear that many companies owed money dont just go 'oh well we wont worry about that
' they take action eventually escalating the steps to legal action. The local council here takes legal action against people who dont pay up on lost library books
I assume then if someones skipped a debt worth more than a hardcopy of harry potter, many companies do try to recover it. And from the experience with our tenant its pretty obvious they dont just overlook it. However no doubt there are companies out there who just dont worry about upnpaid bills
local councils and electricity companies and banks dont seem to be among them.I "owed" 300 odd quid to the Electricity company. I had all the evidence that I didn't, including the new house owners contacting them and telling them that they were the ones who owed the money.
I actually just got so bored with it all I went into their head office and paid it.
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Mar 16th 2010, 1:59 am
#126
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Re: debts or not
It would appear that many companies owed money dont just go 'oh well we wont worry about that' they take action eventually escalating the steps to legal action.
' they take action eventually escalating the steps to legal action.
The local council here takes legal action against people who dont pay up on lost library books I assume then if someones skipped a debt worth more than a hardcopy of harry potter, many companies do try to recover it. And from the experience with our tenant its pretty obvious they dont just overlook it.
I assume then if someones skipped a debt worth more than a hardcopy of harry potter, many companies do try to recover it. And from the experience with our tenant its pretty obvious they dont just overlook it.
However no doubt there are companies out there who just dont worry about upnpaid bills local councils and electricity companies and banks dont seem to be among them.
local councils and electricity companies and banks dont seem to be among them.
Mar 16th 2010, 2:08 am
#127
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Re: debts or not
Fraud is different. If they can prove you took out a loan or cc with no intention to pay back I suppose?
I "owed" 300 odd quid to the Electricity company. I had all the evidence that I didn't, including the new house owners contacting them and telling them that they were the ones who owed the money.
I actually just got so bored with it all I went into there head office and paid it.
I "owed" 300 odd quid to the Electricity company. I had all the evidence that I didn't, including the new house owners contacting them and telling them that they were the ones who owed the money.
I actually just got so bored with it all I went into there head office and paid it.
I bet most of these big companies like councils for eg have their own legal depts which will try to get the money back however they can. How else do they afford to chase lost books
I reckon some bored legal eagle could turn a debt into fraud with a flick of a pen
I also dont believe in all this privacy law stuff either, nor moving countries protects you. We went overseas for a few weeks and the OZ govt knew where and when we had been away
Mind you OZ depts seem to know everything about you, info sharing is scary here.
Mar 16th 2010, 2:17 am
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Mar 16th 2010, 2:24 am
#129
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Re: debts or not
I also dont believe in all this privacy law stuff either, nor moving countries protects you. We went overseas for a few weeks and the OZ govt knew where and when we had been away Mind you OZ depts seem to know everything about you, info sharing is scary here.
Mind you OZ depts seem to know everything about you, info sharing is scary here.
Mar 16th 2010, 8:52 am
#130
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Re: debts or not
They are imprisoned for tax evasion which is a completely different thing to theft and they are only imprisoned if it is proven that they were actually evading paying the tax and not because they couldn't afford to. It's more likey that the local councils will commence bankruptcy proceedings against. If I was you I would learn a bit about the law before commenting on a subject you clearly know nothing about.
As a side note, I have not heard of anybody being actually imprisoned for not paying the TV licence fee. They make a lot of threats about a £1000 fine but imprisonment, I think not. I have only heard of one case of a person going to prision to non-payment of council tax and that person was a protester and went to prison to make a statement.
As a side note, I have not heard of anybody being actually imprisoned for not paying the TV licence fee. They make a lot of threats about a £1000 fine but imprisonment, I think not. I have only heard of one case of a person going to prision to non-payment of council tax and that person was a protester and went to prison to make a statement.
Mar 16th 2010, 9:42 am
#131
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Re: debts or not
IF I WAS YOU I would look up whether you can be jailed for non payment of council tax. The answer is a definate YES. If you look back at the thread, Jeanette is not some poor single pensioner who can't afford to pay. They own their own house, who is just looking for validation that it is OK to steal from our country. Did they not have their bins emptied or children educated?? I know you have some axe to grind about local government, but unless you check your information more carefully, you should keep your advise to yourself.I don't think the government would find it too difficult to prove Jeanette had the funds, as they would of just forked out thousands for their visa.
I have an axe to grind about local government? WOW! You'd make a fortune as a mind reader...
Mar 16th 2010, 9:45 am
#132
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Re: debts or not
Yesterday post #52. Don't need to be a mind reader.
Mar 16th 2010, 9:53 am
#134
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Re: debts or not
Have I missed something here?If the OP owns her house and the debts are'nt credit cards and what not,then why can't she afford to pay her council tax?That does'nt add up???
Someone please enlighten me!
Someone please enlighten me!
Mar 16th 2010, 9:56 am
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Re: debts or not
Also, if he or she can afford to move to OZ then they obviously have some money. Pay up!