Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
Dec 13th 2010, 1:47 am
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
It's probably because an Australian citizen or Australian PR can, if they meet the normal character and residency (as in been resident in NZ for the right amount of time) obtain NZ citizenship. It's understandable then that Kiwi citizens might assume they get the same deal in Australia.
Now they have to qualify for Aus PR like every other country, but this does not seem to have been widely broadcast in NZ!
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Dec 13th 2010, 2:29 am
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
I suspect it is more to do with the fact that up until Feb 2001 NZ Citizens could automatically get Aus PR with their passports, which after 2 years led to Oz citizenship.
Now they have to qualify for Aus PR like every other country, but this does not seem to have been widely broadcast in NZ!
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Now they have to qualify for Aus PR like every other country, but this does not seem to have been widely broadcast in NZ!
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Dec 13th 2010, 7:01 am
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
Dec 13th 2010, 4:14 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
That is: One thing that causes a person to lose their US citizenship. Bonus if it is for 'taking a 3rd citizenship'.
Bob, you don't get de-naturalized for going to Cuba, just fined.
Dec 14th 2010, 7:24 am
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
Trigamy, Buzzy Bee , I love that idea!!!!
Like you say, its not illegal, and may indeed be a brilliant idea for a business venture here on B.E - fake trigamous marriages for visa's!!
Thanks for the advice - sound, as always.
Like you say, its not illegal, and may indeed be a brilliant idea for a business venture here on B.E - fake trigamous marriages for visa's!!
Thanks for the advice - sound, as always.
Dec 14th 2010, 8:14 am
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
Dec 14th 2010, 8:14 am
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
That is outright b*llsh*t. Just got back from the states and as is usual now with being a Dual Citizen I was grilled for about 10 minutes by two people. Times are changing and the states want to know what there expats are doing. IF possible they also want to remove there citizenship. Yes and it's clearly stated online at there website you will lose your US citizenship if you are a dual citizen and you obtain a 3rd passport. US Customs we're good to tell me that people were coming into SFO every day and finding out they are no longer a citizen of the states. Another one is military you can lose it that way as well if you are dual. IF I joined the Australian Military boom there goes the US Citizenship.
The laws have changed recently and this Rete has NFI what he/she is talking about.
The laws have changed recently and this Rete has NFI what he/she is talking about.
Dec 14th 2010, 3:23 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
That is outright b*llsh*t. Just got back from the states and as is usual now with being a Dual Citizen I was grilled for about 10 minutes by two people. Times are changing and the states want to know what there expats are doing. IF possible they also want to remove there citizenship. Yes and it's clearly stated online at there website you will lose your US citizenship if you are a dual citizen and you obtain a 3rd passport. US Customs we're good to tell me that people were coming into SFO every day and finding out they are no longer a citizen of the states. Another one is military you can lose it that way as well if you are dual. IF I joined the Australian Military boom there goes the US Citizenship.
The laws have changed recently and this Rete has NFI what he/she is talking about.
The laws have changed recently and this Rete has NFI what he/she is talking about.
If so, did you enter and exit the US with your US passport?
Did you present any other passport to US immigration/customs/border people?
Can you please direct us to "there website" where it is "clearly stated" that you will lose your US citizenship if you take a 3rd citizenship.
Rete has every FI what she's talking about. Sharing correct information is what this site is all about.
Dec 14th 2010, 7:02 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
I wish I could have some of what he's smoking...
Dec 29th 2010, 5:14 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
That is outright b*llsh*t. Just got back from the states and as is usual now with being a Dual Citizen I was grilled for about 10 minutes by two people. Times are changing and the states want to know what there expats are doing. IF possible they also want to remove there citizenship. Yes and it's clearly stated online at there website you will lose your US citizenship if you are a dual citizen and you obtain a 3rd passport. US Customs we're good to tell me that people were coming into SFO every day and finding out they are no longer a citizen of the states. Another one is military you can lose it that way as well if you are dual. IF I joined the Australian Military boom there goes the US Citizenship.
The laws have changed recently and this Rete has NFI what he/she is talking about.
The laws have changed recently and this Rete has NFI what he/she is talking about.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizens...nship_778.html
The circumstances in which a US citizen can involuntarily lose citizenship are quite limited and the current legal position is in fact mainly a result of various Supreme Court rulings in recent decades.
Dec 29th 2010, 5:21 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
Becoming an Australian citizen may well cause you to lose Dutch citizenship unless:
1. You were born in Australia (unlikely, based on the facts) and currently living in Australia; or
2. If you lived continuously in Australia for 5 years before age 18; or
3. If you're the spouse of an Australian citizen.
http://www.minbuza.nl/en/Services/Co...nt_nationality
If you are concerned about losing Dutch citizenship, you should take legal advice from a competent Dutch lawyer before you pursue Australian citizenship.
It's also possible to lose Dutch citizenship based on living outside the Netherlands:
http://www.minbuza.nl/en/Services/Co...al_nationality
One further thing. If you lose Dutch citizenship and the other parent isn't Dutch, then it may also cause your children to lose their Dutch citizenship (some countries operate on this principle). Again, get legal advice if this is important.
1. You were born in Australia (unlikely, based on the facts) and currently living in Australia; or
2. If you lived continuously in Australia for 5 years before age 18; or
3. If you're the spouse of an Australian citizen.
http://www.minbuza.nl/en/Services/Co...nt_nationality
If you are concerned about losing Dutch citizenship, you should take legal advice from a competent Dutch lawyer before you pursue Australian citizenship.
It's also possible to lose Dutch citizenship based on living outside the Netherlands:
http://www.minbuza.nl/en/Services/Co...al_nationality
One further thing. If you lose Dutch citizenship and the other parent isn't Dutch, then it may also cause your children to lose their Dutch citizenship (some countries operate on this principle). Again, get legal advice if this is important.
Dec 29th 2010, 11:21 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
Mates of mine have lost Spanish and German Citizenship recently. Euro countries and America aren't stuffing around with Dual citizenship anymore.
Dec 29th 2010, 11:29 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
If you explain the circumstances, maybe your friends' situations will make sense. Otherwise, you are talking crap with broad statements like the quoted one.
I am American, am a dual citizen and so is everyone in my family except my poor father.
If anything, there's more permission for multiple citizenship now than there was 50 years ago.
Dec 29th 2010, 11:35 pm
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Re: Citizenship of 3 countries - is this allowed?
Would you knock it off with the vague 'best mate of a distant cousin of mine' business?'
If you explain the circumstances, maybe your friends' situations will make sense. Otherwise, you are talking crap with broad statements like the quoted one.
I am American, am a dual citizen and so is everyone in my family except my poor father.
If anything, there's more permission for multiple citizenship now than there was 50 years ago.
If you explain the circumstances, maybe your friends' situations will make sense. Otherwise, you are talking crap with broad statements like the quoted one.
I am American, am a dual citizen and so is everyone in my family except my poor father.
If anything, there's more permission for multiple citizenship now than there was 50 years ago.
It's nothing new.