Canada to Australia
#61
Re: Canada to Australia
Thanks for the info Wheeler-Jones.
Over on the movingscam.com forum, there are some bad experiences described with Crown Relocations (the international Hong Kong based organization that does business in Canada, not the other Crown that is affiliated with UVL in California, although they have even worse ratings). Majority of stories are U.S. originated shipments though, so not sure if the Crown affiliates in Canada are any better?
Over on the movingscam.com forum, there are some bad experiences described with Crown Relocations (the international Hong Kong based organization that does business in Canada, not the other Crown that is affiliated with UVL in California, although they have even worse ratings). Majority of stories are U.S. originated shipments though, so not sure if the Crown affiliates in Canada are any better?
#62
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I think you would be hard pressed to find any moving companies that have a 100% track record - often it can come down to a rude crew member and it ruins your experience - trust me as I have often been let down by a surly crew member on the collection day. Crown have a good reputation in UK, but to tell the truth I never came across them in Canada.
#63
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That should tell you something. If you have a problem are they going to get back to you? If it were me (and I've moved long distance too many times) I would go with a company with good customer service who answer your enquires right away. As the customer you shouldn't have to chase them to spend your $10k.
#64
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That should tell you something. If you have a problem are they going to get back to you? If it were me (and I've moved long distance too many times) I would go with a company with good customer service who answer your enquires right away. As the customer you shouldn't have to chase them to spend your $10k.
#65
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Canada is best. Hi, I had to comment. I am from Canada. We live in New Zealand as really, I had always wanted to come, not because it would be better or anything like that. Now that we have been here for almost two years and been to OZ a couple of times, I can safely say, Canada is better without describing the measurement criteria. That is not to say we are not happy. But, I can say that the average Joe is usually better off in North America than anywhere else in my opinion. I have lived and worked in the USA, Britain, Bahamas and now NZ. We live well and would anywhere due to my professional credentials so while we do mind the cost of things, we live happily, however, we would live more comfortably perhaps in many parts of Canada. I think however that if one is not born in Canada it seems to take a long time to get in and something like 250,000 to 300,000 do move there each year. However, I like Rangiora and now that we have moved into the new house, planted some things and had more time pass, it seems that I feel at home and like it. I have found that now that time has passed, I don't miss my parents as much, we talk each week on Skype. I email my sisters, though I don't hear from them as much I try to contact them. I am used to it and I am at home.
However, on my measuring stick, Canada is better than either Australia or NZ for many new migrant people.....
However, on my measuring stick, Canada is better than either Australia or NZ for many new migrant people.....
Hmmm.. Minimum wage in Canada? Try $8 per hour. Australia? Over $13.
Canada and particularly US have much more of a two-speed economy. The working poor versus the privileged white collar middle class, lucky enough to be working for big corporations or the public service.
I know what I'm talking about - I lived and worked in Canada for 10 years.
#66
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Thank you very much for the info, most of it was very useful. Prices wise-that is the overall conclusion I came up with. I think overall the cost of living will be very similar.
I already have a visa-entry by beginning of March 2009. House is for sale, but it is getting to be very slow here in BC (scary) and getting worse not better. Basically, the move would depend on house sale (all the money I want to bring are in our house equity), the sooner the better, before all this rain comes back again...
I hope I can drive on the left side, never done it before, at least I do not have to do any driving tests just exchange the licence
I already have a visa-entry by beginning of March 2009. House is for sale, but it is getting to be very slow here in BC (scary) and getting worse not better. Basically, the move would depend on house sale (all the money I want to bring are in our house equity), the sooner the better, before all this rain comes back again...
I hope I can drive on the left side, never done it before, at least I do not have to do any driving tests just exchange the licence
#67
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I just thought I'd add that we bought a new computer before we left Canada. As long as it does 110-240V & 50-60Hz then you just need a cheap adapter for the plug and it works fine. The only things we brought were computers, digital cameras or battery operated things. Nothing else would have worked.
Also the computer and camera we bought right before leaving were way cheaper in Canada.
Also the computer and camera we bought right before leaving were way cheaper in Canada.
#68
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Finally got a response from Crown, asking to fill in the form for the amount of belongings I have and then they will give me an app. number. So, will do that and see what's gonna happen???!!!
#69
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I just thought I'd add that we bought a new computer before we left Canada. As long as it does 110-240V & 50-60Hz then you just need a cheap adapter for the plug and it works fine. The only things we brought were computers, digital cameras or battery operated things. Nothing else would have worked.
Also the computer and camera we bought right before leaving were way cheaper in Canada.
Also the computer and camera we bought right before leaving were way cheaper in Canada.
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Re: Canada to Australia
I chatted with someone at Brytor today and they were willing to answer every question I had even though she knew I was several months away and will have a relatively small volume. Person I spoke with said to send her an e-mail with what I think I will be shipping and they'd give me an estimate based on current costs (obviously fuel is increasing nowadays, so this could change by the time I'm ready, and they always do an actual visual before giving a definitive quote). So far so good.
On the other hand, been trying to contact someone at UVL Canada's International Division and got zero response so far. I heard they were good, but their non-responsiveness does not raise my confidence.
I'll try Crown myself soon to see what their customer service is like.
On the other hand, been trying to contact someone at UVL Canada's International Division and got zero response so far. I heard they were good, but their non-responsiveness does not raise my confidence.
I'll try Crown myself soon to see what their customer service is like.
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I've been doing some googling and if you're technically savvy, there are a number of independent stores (e.g. mwave and i-tech) that are substantially cheaper than the big chain shops in Australia if you're buying individual parts to build your own.
#72
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I chatted with someone at Brytor today and they were willing to answer every question I had even though she knew I was several months away and will have a relatively small volume. Person I spoke with said to send her an e-mail with what I think I will be shipping and they'd give me an estimate based on current costs (obviously fuel is increasing nowadays, so this could change by the time I'm ready, and they always do an actual visual before giving a definitive quote). So far so good.
On the other hand, been trying to contact someone at UVL Canada's International Division and got zero response so far. I heard they were good, but their non-responsiveness does not raise my confidence.
I'll try Crown myself soon to see what their customer service is like.
On the other hand, been trying to contact someone at UVL Canada's International Division and got zero response so far. I heard they were good, but their non-responsiveness does not raise my confidence.
I'll try Crown myself soon to see what their customer service is like.
#73
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Just wanted to say thanks all for the invaluable info. This is my first post, but I've been loitering about on the forum for some time now, and it has helped us tremendously. We're moving from Canada (Northern Ontario) to Australia later this year, and are trying to get the straight goods on shipping costs, restrictions, etc, for a 20-ft container. We've talked to 3 companies and have had 3 very different responses. One fellow suggested that our goods cannot be "owner-packed" due to tightened security restrictions at the ports. We were also considering shipping my OH's tools in a wooden crate or two (no 20-footer); same guy suggested that it's not worth it, that the wood needs to be certified, etc. and only place he's aware of that does this to Oz customs specs, is an outfit in TO (we're in Thunder Bay, lumber capital of the province). Funnily enough, he was also the most expensive of the three. He also indicated that OH's tools would need to be professionally steam-cleaned and certified as such. Another co indicated that we could do the packing and loading ourselves for a substantially reduced service fee, and did not mention having to go to a "professional" for cleaning of our tools. Yet another provided us with a "door-to-port" quote i.e. packing and loading container ourselves (from home) then arrange for transportation to final destination upon arrival at Brisbane port, for essentially half the cost of "door-to-door".
Any thoughts/advice/similar experiences?
Any thoughts/advice/similar experiences?
#74
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Re: Canada to Australia
Just wanted to say thanks all for the invaluable info. This is my first post, but I've been loitering about on the forum for some time now, and it has helped us tremendously. We're moving from Canada (Northern Ontario) to Australia later this year, and are trying to get the straight goods on shipping costs, restrictions, etc, for a 20-ft container. We've talked to 3 companies and have had 3 very different responses. One fellow suggested that our goods cannot be "owner-packed" due to tightened security restrictions at the ports. We were also considering shipping my OH's tools in a wooden crate or two (no 20-footer); same guy suggested that it's not worth it, that the wood needs to be certified, etc. and only place he's aware of that does this to Oz customs specs, is an outfit in TO (we're in Thunder Bay, lumber capital of the province). Funnily enough, he was also the most expensive of the three. He also indicated that OH's tools would need to be professionally steam-cleaned and certified as such. Another co indicated that we could do the packing and loading ourselves for a substantially reduced service fee, and did not mention having to go to a "professional" for cleaning of our tools. Yet another provided us with a "door-to-port" quote i.e. packing and loading container ourselves (from home) then arrange for transportation to final destination upon arrival at Brisbane port, for essentially half the cost of "door-to-door".
Any thoughts/advice/similar experiences?
Any thoughts/advice/similar experiences?
Ordinary wooden articles are fine, just make sure they are declared. They may not even be inspected.
If you do self-pack then AQIS may inspect more boxes, but if you do a good inventory there they may just pass most of them straightaay and just look at a couple.
Personally, forget the certifying/professional cleaning, and just decide whether you want to pack for yourself or not.
#75
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From my experience I would say let them pack everything for you. You will get so much more in and less breakage if it's packed professionally. Don't forget it's going by rail to Vancouver before it goes by boat to Brisbane. We did the door to door thing and it was so much easier. The company we used (AMJ Campbell) said they would not deal with customs if we packed it ourselves, so rather than us have to try to deal with customs as well as all the other bits that go with moving to a new country we let them do it. Over here it's Allied Pickfords who take care of the move.
Just on a personal note...I spent a year living and working just outside Schreiber in Rossport when I was much younger. My boyfriend at the time worked for CP rail and used to take me all the time to TBay (big trip to the city!!) when he had a western run. I love it up there but sure don't miss the cold and snow.
Comet555 is from Ft McMurray and lives in Brisbane. I think they're back visiting family at the moment, but look for her user name. She's very helpful.
Just on a personal note...I spent a year living and working just outside Schreiber in Rossport when I was much younger. My boyfriend at the time worked for CP rail and used to take me all the time to TBay (big trip to the city!!) when he had a western run. I love it up there but sure don't miss the cold and snow.
Comet555 is from Ft McMurray and lives in Brisbane. I think they're back visiting family at the moment, but look for her user name. She's very helpful.