St.Georges Girl

Hi, just wondered what you were doing up at this hour? I assume you meant 'illusions' where I've highlighted it. I suspect it's tiredness. lol

toandfro

https://www.workchoices.gov.au/

this is the government page with all the speil about the new rules .but basiclly it's take it or leave it .you have buggar all rights .cannot go on strike unless you beg permission from the industrial commission .the companies can do as they please .there was a spate of sakings followed by offers of employment at reduced wages. we just had our shifts changed increased by 10 hrs a mth without a so much as a by your leave ...
just sucks really

daunted

Hi St Georges Girl
My 3 are all equally as excited about the whole prospect of a new life in Oz. My elder brother has been out there for ove r18 years now so they have all grown up hearing about it. My eldest, who is 18, and half way through his first year at Uni has always made it known to anyone that will listen that he plans to go live out there as soon as he finished his degree and the middle one says the same thing. Youngest hasnt made such a sweeping statement as of yet LOL
In my mind - my children and future grand children are going to be living the other side of the world to me if i remain in the UK. I dont want this to be the case and as i have always wanted to live there myself, from a very young age, now seems to be the logical time to make that move. Altoghether as one family helping each other make that adjustment. Eldest will finish his degree as planned before he joined us - or depending on timescale (still at TRA stage now) we will all wait until he is done and go then.
My eldest has been out there for a month to stay with his uncle and me and daughter are going at easter. youngest hasnt been yet but says he trusts us!!!!
Sure they are nervous about the making new friends bit and they have the added problem of leaving their dad behind in the UK, BUT they still want to do it and we have all spoken at great length with their dad who is happy that it is what they all want and is behind us in the decision. Truth be known they will prob get more quality time with him when he comes over to stay each year.
Its not been an easy decision at all but we are all confident that it will be a good move. We expect it to be very difficult at first, but we have had it really difficult here too and always manage to stick together and help each other through it.
I think i am more concerned about making friends than they are. after all i wont be at school all day
Biggest and hardest part is going to be telling my parents. Have made the decision not to tell them until we are back from Perth at easter

JenJen

Odd cause I was chatting to my Aussie mate earlier and she said her husband wasn't coming home til 10pm at night, he works 40 hours p.w but if the work isn't done it's in the contract hat he has to do the overtime to get it done without being paid more for it

Thats sounds really crap to me and don't really understand how they can get away with it.

Jen

blowfly

They can and do get away with.One company in Rocky is so bad that the Aussies don't want to work for them, so they have been bringing in workers on sponsered visas.All the English left and went back except one.He was sacked for falling asleep on night shift after working 9 hours with out a break.His wife as a job here in mental health,if she hadn't I think he would have had to leave.This happened one week before christmas.He also as 4 children. Most Aussies were on his side.

lebones

Sounds more like the UK all the time.

JenJen

Hold on what abou the hours law??? Does that not exist over there.
My husbands always doen shifts and has a temptation for overtime, to the point he got banned from going into work as he'd done too many hours and broke the hours law, so even though they were desperate for him to go in at times no one else would they couldn't call him in - he was gutted.

Jen

blowfly

My husband and 2 of my sons work .There is no penalty rates.No extra for working say Australia day except for one of them he got paid extras for it.

JenJen

Is it clearly written in your contract of employment that if needed you have to work above contracted hours for no extra pay ????

Jen

blowfly

[QUOTE=JenJen;4389271]Is it clearly written in your contract of employment that if needed you have to work above contracted hours for no extra pay ????

Jen[/QUOTE

no it wasn't but he was still expected to do it regardless.so were the others

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Overtime rates in Oz are basically being removed... you get paid x per week and that's it. If that week happens to be 40 hours above your contracted hours, and I have had more than one week like that, you get zero for it. You may be allowed the time off in lieu, but that is of course at management discretion...

JenJen

OMG ooh that'll go down well with hubby NOT

Amazulu

Bit of a sweeping statement.
For some people maybe, but not all. I get paid overtime, I would not work it if I didn't. There is a massive labour shortage in this state and any company that tried this shit would not have any workers as they would all be working somewhere else.
I think the reality of the new IR laws is somewhere between what the unions are saying and what management are saying.
I agree with the new IR laws. There is too much unionised, collective, socialist, 'them against us' bullshit here and it needs to be sorted out.

BobbyK81

I always thought if u worked in a job with high demand, u were pretty safe, they can't treat u badly as u can easily get a job elswhere. I was always told during my apprenticeships we were'nt allowed to work overtime for less that time and a half for the first 4 hours and double time after that as all the older sparkies had fought to get that, maybe that's what's happening there now??

shaznstu

hi, i think i have a copy of it. i have recorded the last 2 weeks, but missed the 1st 2. i could transfer it onto a video for you if thats any good? do you know if they followed a plasterer on any of the episodes? if so, and you have a copy of it, could we maybe do a swap?

sharon x