Originally Posted by jond

Frankly there are not that many jobs so I think struggling people have genuinely not proved their worth or value - let alone qualifications. Remember, people have to like you, or feel you will fit in - to employ you. I would probably never compete in my specialisation if it was qual-based alone.





I have to agree with this. I got my job in 3 weeks but not before the agency I went through told me that I would have to work in Australia for 3 years doing a job I did 10 years ago to gain some experience. I told them what I thought of that and asked to speak to the MD of the agency, to cut a long story short I got an interview. Got on extremely well at it and was offered the job there and then.

I just carried on with my work as I did in the UK and have since been promoted and I really like the firm I work for. I don't know if it helps but it is a multi national company and the directors are from all points of the compass.

I like a lot of people on here have a valid qualification that I worked bloody hard for and it is not recognised over here, however as they said in work what happens in the UK normally happens over here 5 years later. So it may be worth having one day.

So I think you have to have a combination of experience, knowledge, qualifications and the ability to get on with people to get a decent job over here and last but not least a big bit of luck.

John

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

That's barista training, you numpty - not "regulation." Anyone can pull a coffee; they don't need special training for it. But if they want to be officially recognised in the industry as a barista, that's another thing entirely.

And if you don't know what a barista is, or why he/she requires training, I can only assume you believe that food at restaurants is cooked by some random bloke or bird who's just wandered in off the street. :rolleyes:

The hypocrisy, ignorance and bigotry on this thread is just pathetic.

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

Firstly, you've completely misinterepreted my use of the word "regulated." By "regulated", I don't mean "subject to regulations", but "privatised" - ie. run by the government.

Originally Posted by MikeStanton

It may come as a shock to you, given you're an Aussie, but apart from you, everybody used the term regulation in the correct sense.

Given your obsession with URLs, I suggest you follow one to an English dictionary and LEARN. Here's a hint: you'll find regulation between "facile" and "retarded".

Originally Posted by galloping gaijin

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I'm currently trying to find a job here...and one company has asked me to provide proof that my MBA is valid to Australian Standards. Fantastic, there is no Australian standard that exists!.. my MBA school is one of a few that is accredited with all 3 major orgs globally and was ranked in the top 20 by the EIU. AFAIK the top Aussie school just hit the 70's and very few, if any, are accredited by any of the UK/EU/US organisations.

But, no I have to go some g'ment agency and wait 6 weeks for a piece of paper that everyone I have already spoken agrees will only tell me what is blindingly obvious to anyone with a bit of common sense, or who could be ar$ed making a decision themselves.

Originally Posted by mr mover

Mike have you heard , the term ? "a waste of space " ??? .
look in a mirror ;) .............. :beer: mm

Originally Posted by TanyaN

For a start, everyone knows MBAs mean zilch. Seen enough dunderheads waving them around to last a lifetime. Pay the astronomical fee, join a few group assignments and bob's your uncle.

Having worked in the UK and Australia have to say Australians work a lot harder. I actually was signed up with an agency in London that would only employ Australians and Kiwis because employers would specifically ask for them and didn't want a Brit.

If you're finding it difficult getting a job or getting qualifications recognised, I would say the market is not desperate to employ you and standards are high which you're struggling to meet.

Originally Posted by arkon

It's the analness of it all though, so long as the stamps cover the postage what does it matter if it's too much? Send the blasted thing anyway.

Today I went to post a A4 sized letter to the UK and the post mistress actually had the nerve to see if it fitted through a pretend letterbox template she had to make sure it wasn't too big to be a big letter post price!! Nothing wrong with that I suppose except she had just sold me the envelope for that express purpose!! I put the papers in it, wrote the address on it and she just had to check to see if it still fitted in the prescribed box!!

How anyone can defend this stupidity is beyond me, but I'm sure someone will try. Source to a verifiable link that took ages to find I refer you to paragraph 2.11 section 2.111

Originally Posted by arkon

I think it's you that needs a good look in the mirror. So far this thread you only posted one 1 liner that attempted to back up vash. Your second and last post was to insult someone by calling them a waste of space. I would argue that it is indeed you that could be called the waste of space if your only replies are to name call.

By the way you still haven’t explained why you get irate poms whinging at you all day long? Is it clients or this forum?

Originally Posted by arkon

It's the analness of it all though, so long as the stamps cover the postage what does it matter if it's too much? Send the blasted thing anyway.

Today I went to post a A4 sized letter to the UK and the post mistress actually had the nerve to see if it fitted through a pretend letterbox template she had to make sure it wasn't too big to be a big letter post price!! Nothing wrong with that I suppose except she had just sold me the envelope for that express purpose!! I put the papers in it, wrote the address on it and she just had to check to see if it still fitted in the prescribed box!!

How anyone can defend this stupidity is beyond me, but I'm sure someone will try. Source to a verifiable link that took ages to find I refer you to paragraph 2.11 section 2.111

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz

There is a lot of bullshitting going on re skills requirement. I'd be the first to say UK is a shit-hole....but lets not pretend the job / recruitment process in Aus is anything but substandard and backward:cool:

Originally Posted by MartinLuther

In order to prevent the belief that "Australia is the most over regulated country in the world" becoming just a piece of dogma, could someone provide an example of an industry that is regulated in Australia and the UK equivalent isn't?

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz

Agree with a lot of what you say. When assessing the cultural differences re Aussie work culture, "mates rates" is how things are done over here. And it's especially great if you're a bloke.

I wonder if the above would have happened if a female had dared to ask for a meeting with the MD, especially here in Brisbane?:rolleyes: