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Old Jun 25th 2009, 2:43 pm
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I saw on TV the other day that scientists are begging tourists to stay away from antartica as it is apparently very detrimental to the environment there (polution etc). What an irony. Great picture by the way.

Back to the original thread, I think that some folk are deliberately trying to put others off going to Oz so that they can keep it for themselves!
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Old Jun 25th 2009, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Lorrielou
I saw on TV the other day that scientists are begging tourists to stay away from antartica as it is apparently very detrimental to the environment there (polution etc). What an irony. Great picture by the way.

Back to the original thread, I think that some folk are deliberately trying to put others off going to Oz so that they can keep it for themselves!
Interesting remarks!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Lorrielou
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Back to the original thread, I think that some folk are deliberately trying to put others off going to Oz so that they can keep it for themselves!
Maybe. But I think it's more likely that some folk are trying to put others off going to Aus to justify their own decision to return. It's a bit like those who denigrate the decision of others to have/not have a baby. Makes them feel more secure with their decision.

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Originally Posted by MartinLuther
Maybe. But I think it's more likely that some folk are trying to put others off going to Aus to justify their own decision to return. It's a bit like those who denigrate the decision of others to have/not have a baby. Makes them feel more secure with their decision.

Live and let live
I agree. Live and let live. If folk want to pop off to Prague for the weekend they never should have come.
I much prefer my weekends at Hamilton Island personally.
Funnily enough I am just back from a trip to Scotland and not once did I go to the opera or jet off to Europe
The whole Aus has no culture line is a funny one as I have done many more culturally stimulating things here than I ever did in Scotland. This could have much to do with the fact we earn more cash here and have more time off but I do believe that there is plenty culture here unless you only refer to culture in terms of history, which in my opinion is very blinkered. This would mean that for example, the UK has a dearth of culture compared to Rome or Egypt. Life is indeed what you make it.
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Originally Posted by danjones1
To quote a Top Gear presenter...

"Australia is where you go when you’ve made a mess of everything. That’s why the 1.3m Brits who live there are known as whingeing Poms. Because they’re all failures."
I will assume that this was said tongue in cheek.

If not - what a pile of SH1TE!!!
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Originally Posted by kporte
This could have much to do with the fact we have more time off
Now that is definitely one of the biggest Australian myths.

but I do believe that there is plenty culture here unless you only refer to culture in terms of history, which in my opinion is very blinkered. This would mean that for example, the UK has a dearth of culture compared to Rome or Egypt. Life is indeed what you make it.
Methinks your definition of culture is limited. Australia hasn't been around around long enough to properly develop it's own culture and currently it's a bastardised version of the Anglo culture.
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Originally Posted by dejags
I will assume that this was said tongue in cheek.

If not - what a pile of SH1TE!!!
It was from an article published in The Times. It's a good read:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2326687.ece
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Methinks your definition of culture is limited. Australia hasn't been around around long enough to properly develop it's own culture and currently it's a bastardised version of the Anglo culture.
With all due respect - what a load of rubbish! Australian indigenous culture is one of the oldest in the history of mankind. The indigenous people of Australia have never had any interest in bastardising the Anglo culture.

Australia did exist prior to 1606.
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Originally Posted by Deancm
Now that is definitely one of the biggest Australian myths.



Methinks your definition of culture is limited. Australia hasn't been around around long enough to properly develop it's own culture and currently it's a bastardised version of the Anglo culture.
Eh, no myth for me.
My view of culture is not at all limited, completely the opposite. With your thought process london for example must be far behind Rome culturally?
Culture comes in many forms so maybe you should open your eyes to what culture really is and let yourself develop some vision and free thought instead of regurgitating this tired old argument.
God this subject is almost as boring as trawling around a mind numbing museum filled with old tat from a bygone age
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Ah the great Jeremy Clarkson - politically just to the right of Genghis Kahn, but he does make me giggle. Here's what he has to say about the yookay.
Perhaps you’re saying that you’re proud to be British? But what does this mean exactly; what are you proud of? Our provincial town centres with their Styrofoam carpets or those pastry-faced people who work in petrol stations; our National Health Service, our trains, our cricket team, our roads, our government, our wobbly bridges, our Millennium Dome, Rover, our Hutton inquiry, the British Library, British Airways, Britart, our education system, Will Young — what?

Had we been around between 1850 and 1875, when Britain was the workshop and the engine of the world, then maybe you could wake up every morning and bask in the hope and the glory and the pomp and the circumstance. Maybe then you could have put a sign in your garden saying, “Support our troops and Lord Palmerston”.

But now? All we have is our world-renowned sense of humour and I’m sorry, good though it is, I’m not going to spend £500 on a flagpole to celebrate Richard Curtis’s dab hand with a metaphor.


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Originally Posted by kporte
Eh, no myth for me.
My view of culture is not at all limited, completely the opposite. With your thought process london for example must be far behind Rome culturally?
Culture comes in many forms so maybe you should open your eyes to what culture really is and let yourself develop some vision and free thought instead of regurgitating this tired old argument.
God this subject is almost as boring as trawling around a mind numbing museum filled with old tat from a bygone age
Agreed (see my post above).

The view that unless it has English Origins it has zero cultural significance makes my blood boil.
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Ah the great Jeremy Clarkson - politically just to the right of Genghis Kahn, but he does make me giggle. Here's what he has to say about the yookay.
Perhaps you’re saying that you’re proud to be British? But what does this mean exactly; what are you proud of? Our provincial town centres with their Styrofoam carpets or those pastry-faced people who work in petrol stations; our National Health Service, our trains, our cricket team, our roads, our government, our wobbly bridges, our Millennium Dome, Rover, our Hutton inquiry, the British Library, British Airways, Britart, our education system, Will Young — what?

Had we been around between 1850 and 1875, when Britain was the workshop and the engine of the world, then maybe you could wake up every morning and bask in the hope and the glory and the pomp and the circumstance. Maybe then you could have put a sign in your garden saying, “Support our troops and Lord Palmerston”.

But now? All we have is our world-renowned sense of humour and I’m sorry, good though it is, I’m not going to spend £500 on a flagpole to celebrate Richard Curtis’s dab hand with a metaphor.


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Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy

All of my holidays are nature based, I never go to a city unless it is for transport. Australia provides the ultimate in nature based holidays as there are so few cities and people, which is perfect for me. The fewer people the better - no people = PERFECT.
Exactly the same for me.
That makes Australia a great place.
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With all due respect - what a load of rubbish! Australian indigenous culture is one of the oldest in the history of mankind. The indigenous people of Australia have never had any interest in bastardising the Anglo culture.
What part of Australian indigenous culture do you see in Australia in everyday life?

None. Nuff said. It's not a part of modern day Australian culture.

Australia did exist prior to 1606.
Australia was colonised just over 200 years ago. Prior to that it wasn't known as Australia so, technically Australia didn't exist prior to to 1788. Obviously the island was there before that date.

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Originally Posted by Deancm
What part of Australian indigenous culture do you see in Australia in everyday life?

None. Nuff said. It's not a part of modern day Australian culture.



Australia was colonised just over 200 years ago. Prior to that it wasn't known as Australia so, technically Australia didn't exist prior to to 1788. Obviously the island was there before that date.
I am almost speechless.

Ask the many Aborignal or Torres Strait Islander people (approx. 450 000 people at the last census) if they agree with your statement regarding the fact that indigenous culture is not part of everyday life in Australia. A bit like saying because the Brits/Europeans colonised Africa that African culture is not alive and kicking. Ditto the sub-continent, in fact anywhere that has ever been colonised.

I can't even be bothered arguing with you. Yours statements are ill-informed and bigoted!
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