Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy

If global warming does exist it will be 50 - 100 years before it gets really bad and will will either be vegetables in nursing homes or dead so who cares.
The article was a NZ newspaper, they have an inferiority complex in NZ and love to slagg of OZ.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

So what if we are the worse polluters per head. There are only 20 million of us and one of the most sparsly populated countries in the world. I think the comparison should be made by pollution per square metre. Whatever pollution we produce is a knats piss in the ocean compared to the USA, China or India. Whilst we should be making plans to deal with the consequences, there is nothing Australia can do to stop it.

Originally Posted by bridie

Are you in the UK?

if so then you're probably drinking it anyway...!

I agree with Nedkelly, the amount of pollution coming from this country can be nowhere near as much as the US or China where their population is 100 times what it is here.

As for the drought, I recently caught a thing on the news with this expert saying it was the El Nino effect and that this winter we should start to get back to normal rainfall - apparently droughts are on a regular cycle, which makes you wonder why on earth farmers dont manage their finances a bit better to cope.

Sorry, I dont buy into all this global warming nonsense, weather is a strange thing, always has been, always will be and just because it steps out of the so-called "normal" weather doesnt mean we'll all be fried by 2017.

Should have read ALL the posts shouldnt I, sorry Lord Pom Percy, I just repeated some of what you said!!

Originally Posted by Amazulu

For every Phd saying that we are experiencing the effects of global warming and it is going to get worse, there is another Phd saying that this is not global warming and is part of the normal weather cycle. The thing is the global warming proponents get all the press as it makes better headlines. Sure some of the anti-gw are part of or, funded by industry, but then some of the pro-gw experts are part of the green lobby who have a socialist/left-wing agenda that goes beyond the environment (Australian Labor party for instance).

Originally Posted by suzimc

Yes, but regardless of the politics and what extent they play in all this we are using up the earths finite natural resources so following some of the measures that help to slow global warming will help there anyway.

Originally Posted by suzimc

Each and every individual should be taking their own responsibility for it no matter where they live, and what size their population is - you can't toss the blame onto anyone elses shoulders. At the end of the day whichever country you are in chances are that in a relatively short time (50 - 100 years, so therefore our children and grandchildren...) most of the earth will be suffering the consequences of global warming and the only way to slow these effects is if everyone makes an effort.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

How about North Americans giving up SUV's for a start.

Originally Posted by Amazulu

Sure, if Australia reduces it's emissions to the levels being proposed then the only thing it's going to do harm to is our economy. Unless the big polluters are tackled, countries like the US, China, India then whatever Australia does is not going to make the slightest bit of difference. The only difference being is that our economy will be f**ked.

Originally Posted by suzimc

Definitely. And the big houses with 24/7/365 climate control.

Originally Posted by Nedkelly

How about North Americans giving up SUV's for a start.

Originally Posted by suzimc

Definitely. And the big houses with 24/7/365 climate control.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

How about North Americans giving up SUV's for a start.

Originally Posted by Swerv-o

I imagine they would be more likely to give up guns first...

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Originally Posted by Amazulu

G. Bush talks about reducing Americas petrol consumption by 20% in the next 10 years. All well and good but that would mean the Yanks giving up their big petrol engined SUVs, buying more diesel vehicles, investing in bio-fuels etc. All well and good in theory but changing the mindset over there is a whole different ballgame.

Originally Posted by bridie

So that will be when hell freezes over then?