Aussie drivers
Dec 15th 2011 | 7:33 pm
#106
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Re: Aussie drivers
Dec 15th 2011 | 7:38 pm
#107
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Re: Aussie drivers
I think that you are being very cheeky, Vim, when you say that your thoughts weren't based on logic etc !
However, you are right. Indians are called Indians and from the sub-continent, whilst almost all the rest are Asian except for the Chinese who are usually referred to as Chinese.
However, you are right. Indians are called Indians and from the sub-continent, whilst almost all the rest are Asian except for the Chinese who are usually referred to as Chinese.
I didn't single the Chinese out as being classed as 'Chinese' and not 'Asian', true. I hardly think it is something worth mulling over though.
Dec 16th 2011 | 12:58 am
#110
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Re: Aussie drivers
for you, no problem.
http://www.thefreesociety.org/Articl...-1-nanny-state
"There is a PhD thesis waiting to be written some day about how Australia came to be the world’s number one nanny state; how a country that was once renowned for rugged individualism capitulated to puritanism with barely a whimper.
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http://www.thefreesociety.org/Articl...-1-nanny-state
"There is a PhD thesis waiting to be written some day about how Australia came to be the world’s number one nanny state; how a country that was once renowned for rugged individualism capitulated to puritanism with barely a whimper.
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Dec 16th 2011 | 1:04 am
#111
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Re: Aussie drivers
In flowing traffic there is no excuse IMO.
Dec 16th 2011 | 1:07 am
#112
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Re: Aussie drivers
I hate driving here.
It swings wildly between utter utter boredom one minute and heart stopping terror the next.
road deaths in Oz are 1.5 x higher than in the uk (3.6 per 100k v 5.2). for a country thats mostly empty space crisscrossed by arrow streight roads thats pretty impressive.
Apart from the lack of driving skill in general , a joking tollerance to drink driving amongst the general population and badly thought out road layouts i suspect the lack of car maintainance plays a big part in that little statistic.
letting kids with no insurance who've just passed their driving test in rear wheel drive , V6 engined cars with no requirement for an annual safety inspection is a recipe for disaster.
I 've become totally numb to the news headline that another teenager has wrapped his car round a tree ( cut to scattered wreackage of 15 year old commadore) .
It swings wildly between utter utter boredom one minute and heart stopping terror the next.
road deaths in Oz are 1.5 x higher than in the uk (3.6 per 100k v 5.2). for a country thats mostly empty space crisscrossed by arrow streight roads thats pretty impressive.
Apart from the lack of driving skill in general , a joking tollerance to drink driving amongst the general population and badly thought out road layouts i suspect the lack of car maintainance plays a big part in that little statistic.
letting kids with no insurance who've just passed their driving test in rear wheel drive , V6 engined cars with no requirement for an annual safety inspection is a recipe for disaster.
I 've become totally numb to the news headline that another teenager has wrapped his car round a tree ( cut to scattered wreackage of 15 year old commadore) .
Dec 16th 2011 | 1:12 am
#113
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Re: Aussie drivers
I think that you are being very cheeky, Vim, when you say that your thoughts weren't based on logic etc !
However, you are right. Indians are called Indians and from the sub-continent, whilst almost all the rest are Asian except for the Chinese who are usually referred to as Chinese.
However, you are right. Indians are called Indians and from the sub-continent, whilst almost all the rest are Asian except for the Chinese who are usually referred to as Chinese.
Not that I have noticed...
Dec 16th 2011 | 1:28 am
#114
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Re: Aussie drivers
UK = South Asian => Asian
Oz = South East Asian/East Asian => Asian
Dec 16th 2011 | 1:48 am
#115
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Re: Aussie drivers
And of course in OZ we are referred to as European, never English, or Scottish, or Irish, or Welsh, or British?
Dec 16th 2011 | 8:14 am
#116
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Re: Aussie drivers
Shortly after I moved to brissie, i had to get a cab to the city. I sat in the front 'cos I had read that 'that's what people do here' The driver chatted to me all the way, but obviously thought it was polite to look straight at me all the time. My eyes were out front - looking at the road ahead - well one of us had to - So I was able to observe when he crashed into the back of a UTE.
After the accident he said to me 'I've learned something today' and I thought the lesson was going to be 'look forwards when driving' But it was 'My brakes need fixing, I'm a v experienced driver, just think how bad it could have been'
After the accident he said to me 'I've learned something today' and I thought the lesson was going to be 'look forwards when driving' But it was 'My brakes need fixing, I'm a v experienced driver, just think how bad it could have been'
Dec 16th 2011 | 4:46 pm
#118
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Re: Aussie drivers
I hate driving here.
It swings wildly between utter utter boredom one minute and heart stopping terror the next.
road deaths in Oz are 1.5 x higher than in the uk (3.6 per 100k v 5.2). for a country thats mostly empty space crisscrossed by arrow streight roads thats pretty impressive.
Apart from the lack of driving skill in general , a joking tollerance to drink driving amongst the general population and badly thought out road layouts i suspect the lack of car maintainance plays a big part in that little statistic.
letting kids with no insurance who've just passed their driving test in rear wheel drive , V6 engined cars with no requirement for an annual safety inspection is a recipe for disaster.
I 've become totally numb to the news headline that another teenager has wrapped his car round a tree ( cut to scattered wreackage of 15 year old commadore).
It swings wildly between utter utter boredom one minute and heart stopping terror the next.
road deaths in Oz are 1.5 x higher than in the uk (3.6 per 100k v 5.2). for a country thats mostly empty space crisscrossed by arrow streight roads thats pretty impressive.
Apart from the lack of driving skill in general , a joking tollerance to drink driving amongst the general population and badly thought out road layouts i suspect the lack of car maintainance plays a big part in that little statistic.
letting kids with no insurance who've just passed their driving test in rear wheel drive , V6 engined cars with no requirement for an annual safety inspection is a recipe for disaster.
I 've become totally numb to the news headline that another teenager has wrapped his car round a tree ( cut to scattered wreackage of 15 year old commadore).
With a higher road death rate per population, it means relatively more people are affected by those deaths. Surely you would agree on a human level that it gets worse with increasing numbers of people affected from someone dying from a road death - therefore a higher rate of road deaths per population is a bad thing, and is a perfectly valid way of looking at (and humanizing) such statistics.
Dec 16th 2011 | 5:01 pm
#119
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Re: Aussie drivers
That's just crap. You can't just look at raw statistics like you seem to want to, you need to humanize them.
With a higher road death rate per population, it means relatively more people are affected by those deaths. Surely you would agree on a human level that it gets worse with increasing numbers of people affected from someone dying from a road death - therefore a higher rate of road deaths per population is a bad thing, and is a perfectly valid way of looking at (and humanizing) such statistics.
With a higher road death rate per population, it means relatively more people are affected by those deaths. Surely you would agree on a human level that it gets worse with increasing numbers of people affected from someone dying from a road death - therefore a higher rate of road deaths per population is a bad thing, and is a perfectly valid way of looking at (and humanizing) such statistics.
Last edited by Broad Shoulders; Dec 16th 2011 at 5:06 pm.
