Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
#271
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Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
I still belive that while the cost of living may have gone up, the wages can still be better so you sort of absorbe the changes, it may be almost as expensive as the UK to live but the wages seem to compensate that. I'm sure thats not the same in every ocupation so thats why people should really look long and hard at why they are coming over.
That again is still only my opinion
#273
Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
Bit late in on this one and I see many people are going against what the OP says. Its a bit drastic but I agree with most of what he says. We came 6 months and ago and Oz is a big time rip off. Mainly due to the exchange rate yes but when a book here costs 3 times the price of one in the UK (and that includes shipping it here) then somethings not right.
Nearly everything is dearer. OP mentioned its a scam and obviously its not but his point is that people may not realise how expensive it is until they get here as they're reading its 'swings and roundabouts'. We didn't know and look on BE a lot.
Anyone who comes over now will have a heart attack at prices. People who have been here > 2 years don't really know the difference as the UK is so cheap for everything now in light of the recession. Its so expensive here I even get my mags (Boxing monthly and 442) subscribed from the UK and its still cheaper. Sunglasses - $550. Same ones on ebay shipped from US - $200. Clothes - same story. They say its because the stuff needs to get shipped from China but how does made in China stuff get to the UK - which is further. Oz is an easy place to get ripped off. but if you are careful and a bit savvy its okay.
Most people are right though - if you don't like it then obviously you can go back. The standard of living here is so much higher and unfortunately now you have to pay for it. No one forced us to come here though ;-)
p.s eating out prob a bit cheaper and much higher standard. Food in Uk sucks
Nearly everything is dearer. OP mentioned its a scam and obviously its not but his point is that people may not realise how expensive it is until they get here as they're reading its 'swings and roundabouts'. We didn't know and look on BE a lot.
Anyone who comes over now will have a heart attack at prices. People who have been here > 2 years don't really know the difference as the UK is so cheap for everything now in light of the recession. Its so expensive here I even get my mags (Boxing monthly and 442) subscribed from the UK and its still cheaper. Sunglasses - $550. Same ones on ebay shipped from US - $200. Clothes - same story. They say its because the stuff needs to get shipped from China but how does made in China stuff get to the UK - which is further. Oz is an easy place to get ripped off. but if you are careful and a bit savvy its okay.
Most people are right though - if you don't like it then obviously you can go back. The standard of living here is so much higher and unfortunately now you have to pay for it. No one forced us to come here though ;-)
p.s eating out prob a bit cheaper and much higher standard. Food in Uk sucks
Although whenever I want to quickly get a feel for whether something is particularly expensive in Australia or not, I would not use the latest spot rate to make a quick conversion, I would use a long run average. Australian retail outlets can hardly be expected to drop their prices in line with sterling.
I came here and have not had a heart attack yet about prices. I do think it is swings and roundabouts when it comes to cost of living, with the exception of my rent, but once we sell up and buy here that will right itself.
Food in UK sucks. What a ridiculous statement. Very cliched, you will be saying Brits eat nothing but potatoes, boiled ham and cabbage next.
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Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
I've just a done a quick shop at coles to see how much it would be compeared to my weekly shop at Tescos, buying the stuff I would normally buy and belive it or not, even after currency conversion, it came up slightly cheaper (not by much mind).
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Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
A poor GBP:AUD exchange rate does not make Australia a rip off, it just means there is an unfavourable exchange rate if you chose to make that comparison.
Although whenever I want to quickly get a feel for whether something is particularly expensive in Australia or not, I would not use the latest spot rate to make a quick conversion, I would use a long run average. Australian retail outlets can hardly be expected to drop their prices in line with sterling.
I came here and have not had a heart attack yet about prices. I do think it is swings and roundabouts when it comes to cost of living, with the exception of my rent, but once we sell up and buy here that will right itself.
Food in UK sucks. What a ridiculous statement. Very cliched, you will be saying Brits eat nothing but potatoes, boiled ham and cabbage next.
Although whenever I want to quickly get a feel for whether something is particularly expensive in Australia or not, I would not use the latest spot rate to make a quick conversion, I would use a long run average. Australian retail outlets can hardly be expected to drop their prices in line with sterling.
I came here and have not had a heart attack yet about prices. I do think it is swings and roundabouts when it comes to cost of living, with the exception of my rent, but once we sell up and buy here that will right itself.
Food in UK sucks. What a ridiculous statement. Very cliched, you will be saying Brits eat nothing but potatoes, boiled ham and cabbage next.
Oz retail outlets charge what they can because Ozzies haven't got a clue. Its not in their nature to shop around and they're enjoying the good times. Lets see how long that lasts
And yes food in UK definitely sucks. if I go for 10 meals roughly half will be poor, 3 average, 2 good. here 9 will be very good and 1 naff. Definitely higher quality of food. Everyone knows most British people don't have a clue about food. They eat a naff curry after 10 pints and say 'ooh its so tasty...yum yum' puke up, wish they stuck to fish and chips and go home. not that I'm one to generalise or anything
p.s just went to the Davy Jones sale in Sydney armed with a $50 voucher from work. Shirts on average $140 (thats 30% off). Ties $95 (same 30% off).
I bought the same shirt off the House of fraser website for $75 (free shipping to oz) and the tie from the Paulsmith website for $60. Will give voucher to my mrs. May get a box of chocolates out of $50 ;-).
Last edited by itxrd; Jan 3rd 2011 at 3:02 pm.
#277
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Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
You must have bought everything that was on offer ;-)
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I've ignored the rest of your post as the comments were fairly ridiculous. In my opinion anyway.
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Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
Spreadsheet ha ha very good
Seems like a lot of people that are here can't accept that everything in the garden is not rosy. Anyone who says Oz is not expensive is delusional.
People coming to Oz - its too late for us but you can save yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems like a lot of people that are here can't accept that everything in the garden is not rosy. Anyone who says Oz is not expensive is delusional.
People coming to Oz - its too late for us but you can save yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
How did you manage that when Coles doesn't sell much of what you can buy in Tesco... or vice versa for that matter.
#283
Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
I guess it depends on where you go to eat. I've had crap meal out here and I've had crap meals out in the UK. Also had excellent and very good in both places. Unfortunately I've lost my spreadsheet which gives exact figures.
I've ignored the rest of your post as the comments were fairly ridiculous. In my opinion anyway.
I've ignored the rest of your post as the comments were fairly ridiculous. In my opinion anyway.
Got me going on two points.... Food... Most UK people think that Kebabs there are great... couldnt' be more wrong... Never heard of any UK Kebab shops baking their own bread (there has to be some surely ???) and that filling stuff that disguises itself as meat, should be rebranded Lamb Spam.
As for Ozzies not comparing shopping... wrong, thats why we have so many small retailers.
Still carry on Itxrd... you'll keep the mods busy and I personally luv that We need more posters like you.
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#284
Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
Going to be be an interesting poster, as evenhanded at his barbs for both Aussies and Brits.
Got me going on two points.... Food... Most UK people think that Kebabs there are great... couldnt' be more wrong... Never heard of any UK Kebab shops baking their own bread (there has to be some surely ???) and that filling stuff that disguises itself as meat, should be rebranded Lamb Spam.
Got me going on two points.... Food... Most UK people think that Kebabs there are great... couldnt' be more wrong... Never heard of any UK Kebab shops baking their own bread (there has to be some surely ???) and that filling stuff that disguises itself as meat, should be rebranded Lamb Spam.
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Re: Anyone Quitting Aus due to High Cost of Living
[QUOTE=moneypenny20;9075724]I don't think you read the same way as the rest of us. Most are of the opinion that NOWHERE is rosy. Shit happens everywhere which in turn encourages the roses to grow. Most people are aware that there is a relatively high cost of living, what they're pointing out is that it's the same in the UK and most other places]
Moneypenny - When you say 'most' I count 3.
I've finally finished reading the thread and there's at least that many people + more who reckon Oz IS more expensive. The only thing is the other dudes have made their point and moved on. You guys keep lingering around ;-)
Our little tete a tete is funny but I'm writing this for people thinking of moving now. Not 5 yrs ago but now. For you - this moneypenny chick don't know what she's talking about. It's not the same as the UK and other places. Its a fair bit more expensive.
Why is it cheaper to ship clothes, books, magazine from the UK and get them shipped here than to buy the same thing already here?
Where else is the average wage to house price 6-1? Oh the states and UK before the bubble burst. But thats another thread...
You guys its a great country and there's loads of positives. The one main negative though is that if you expect to me financially better or maybe even the same as in the UK you better hope your Oz salary is > twice the UK one. If not you will be worse off. Thats just the way it is. The positives still outway the negatives though
When did you move here anyway moneypenny?
p.s On the Uk food thing - if you ask any person from outside of the UK (apart from Dorothy) who have been there they will all say UK food is kak. You guys will eat anything ;-)
Moneypenny - When you say 'most' I count 3.
I've finally finished reading the thread and there's at least that many people + more who reckon Oz IS more expensive. The only thing is the other dudes have made their point and moved on. You guys keep lingering around ;-)
Our little tete a tete is funny but I'm writing this for people thinking of moving now. Not 5 yrs ago but now. For you - this moneypenny chick don't know what she's talking about. It's not the same as the UK and other places. Its a fair bit more expensive.
Why is it cheaper to ship clothes, books, magazine from the UK and get them shipped here than to buy the same thing already here?
Where else is the average wage to house price 6-1? Oh the states and UK before the bubble burst. But thats another thread...
You guys its a great country and there's loads of positives. The one main negative though is that if you expect to me financially better or maybe even the same as in the UK you better hope your Oz salary is > twice the UK one. If not you will be worse off. Thats just the way it is. The positives still outway the negatives though
When did you move here anyway moneypenny?
p.s On the Uk food thing - if you ask any person from outside of the UK (apart from Dorothy) who have been there they will all say UK food is kak. You guys will eat anything ;-)
Last edited by itxrd; Jan 3rd 2011 at 4:25 pm.