zargof

They have improved. A few days ago Trump had a 56% chance of winning.

Jerseygirl

I don't take any notice of the numbers...a lot can happen between now and November. Trump could carry on ranting...putting his foot in his mouth. Clinton could get him to bully her during the debates...as did RickLazio. Both of which hands it to her. More hacked emails could be made public...or a large terrorist attack on US soil would hand it to him.

zargof

Sure that's all true. Although I wonder about the debates. What if Hillary made Trump look like an idiot who knew nothing about policy in the debates. Would the bullshit sexism in the country make that a bad thing. If the situation was reversed it would be bad, like when Biden debated Palin, he had to go easy so as not to look mean to a woman.

Another thought I had: there was a big appeal to Republicans at the DNC by saying Trump doesn't represent them and they should vote for Hillary instead. Now that has danger of alienating the left, and I thought the balance was about right. But doesn't this also run the risk of losses down ticket? If you tie all the GOP senators and Congressmen to Trump, then people would be less likely to vote for them, maybe stay at home. Now they could leave President black and go red down ticket.

sir_eccles

Tough ask.

sir_eccles

Umm no we don't.

SultanOfSwing

I do have a question about vaccines - why the clucking bell don't they make them mandatory already?

That's one of the things that really puts me off her. I line up with her on various social issues, but some of that anti-science BS that she comes off with just loses me.

At least she'd be the one candidate that would do something about climate change, but what's the point when the next generation of children all die from measles?

sir_eccles

Well yes OK that's one question. Though the majority are free thanks to the aca.

SultanOfSwing

Obviously that's not what she was getting at ...

zargof

Yeah I agree this. What is it about medical doctors in politics questioning vaccines?

I for one would get behind a scientocracy.

sir_eccles

I was glad to see Hillary say she believed in science.

zargof

But you know she'd flip if it would win votes...

scrubbedexpat099

SultanOfSwing

It's the current meme, they think it makes them look all hip and edgy, whereas it really makes them look like a malpractice suit waiting to happen.

Any doctor who advocates against vaccinations should be stripped of their right to practice medicine.

Utter utopia.

Steerpike

Is this as good as it sounds? I hadn't heard much about it until I read this ...
Courts Crush Voter Suppression Just in Time for Election Day - The Daily Beast
Extract:

amideislas

You shouldn't underestimate either Trump or the gullibility of voters.

Hillary is not a great presenter. She doesn't exhibit charisma and her voice is generally irritating. She has a bad habit of unnecessarily raising her voice (appearing desperate) and rarely exhibits any great sense of conviction. Some people are naturals at these things. She isn't.

Trump, on the other hand, is well versed in showmanship, exhibits overwhelming confidence, and can actually appear likeable, despite his ominous character, and his outrageous narratives.

So, which one do you think will exhibit the most appeal in debates that will undoubtedly be broadcast to hundreds of millions of gullible voters in the midst of whipped up emotional hysteria?