Do you really want to come to NZ?
#301
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Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
yep I know they have one but thats not the main office ....thanks for that
most of the work is done in wangas.....
but anyway Ive been to see Korn, and Panic at the Disco (panic at the disco took my girls btw )
and was you being angry i dont think you were or is that just me
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#302
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Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
[QUOTE=Lookin2Oz;6923169]If you don’t mind me asking – where in the UK are you from ?
Yes well, driving to Auckland to see concerts is understandable , I think most people like music and there is nothing to beat a good concert
Which band / s did you see up in Auckland ?
Cheers
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Yes well, driving to Auckland to see concerts is understandable , I think most people like music and there is nothing to beat a good concert
Which band / s did you see up in Auckland ?
Cheers
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#303
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Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
Oh my this is an angry little thread - why would you want to post the details of Mars New Zealand company profile - what is the point in that. Are you and Patrick a couple of posters deliberately trying to stir up trouble. I cannot see where you are coming from at all. Everyone has an opinion, sounds like you should be in the house of commons or somewhere like that to vent your anger at something or other. All this scoring points is a little childish is it not. The way I see it is freedom of choice to work and live anywhere the fancy takes you. We all come here wanting a better way of life and some of us have it. I agree that it can be a wrong move for some depending on what they are looking to get out of it. My daughter is moving back to the UK after 5 years here and I feel so sorry for her. She is moving cause she misses the UK and the history and the closeness to Europe not for the state of the economy there, the unemployment and the crap weather and for that I feel afraid for her for she will never have in the UK what she has here. I hope she realises that and maybe returns here again one day. People look on here to get other's opinions and come to their own conclusions of life here and make choices on that information, but if they are wiser still, they will visit first. Try to play nicely children. It is not nice to see all this bickering on this forum.
#305
Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
A number of places have a head office - they are actually only a national head office in some cases. Often the head office for the region/company is actually in Melbourne or Sidders.
#306
Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
Originally Posted by lookin2oz
I am - as you say entitled to my opinion
#307
Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
Actually I was engaging in conversation with the other forum member. If you care to read the text you will read that I was discussing music & concerts in Auckland etc.
Yes I am aware of that but it is a forum and we are all entitled to input into it once you make your post public and not private.
I happen to have had dealings with MARS in New Zealand and in my opinion politely pointed out that MARS actually do have a head office in Auckland as the member that I was engaged in conversing with expressed that MARS HO is in Australia.
I think it is a dangerous practice to post details of work places of members. You never know who is out there and what their motives may be. I think that sort of info is better kept to a PM.
Am I attempting to stir up trouble ? – Certainly not.
But I am - as you say entitled to my opinion and that is - some information is FACT ( as in the case of MARS h/o) and can not be disputed. So regardless of my opinion
( or whoever else’s) the fact IS – MARS New Zealand have a head office in Auckland. See above
In my opinion my pointing this out ( politely) is NOT stirring trouble – is that your idea of stirring trouble ? NOPE!
Outside of that I am truly sorry that your family is being spilt up and that must be really hard for you.
Please don't be sorry for me. I am not sorry for me only sorry for those that return to the past hoping to pick up where they left off. That will never happen as people move on and the old places are never the same when you go back years later. In my opinion in life you can only move forward and that is what I intend to do.
Have a nice day
Yes I am aware of that but it is a forum and we are all entitled to input into it once you make your post public and not private.
I happen to have had dealings with MARS in New Zealand and in my opinion politely pointed out that MARS actually do have a head office in Auckland as the member that I was engaged in conversing with expressed that MARS HO is in Australia.
I think it is a dangerous practice to post details of work places of members. You never know who is out there and what their motives may be. I think that sort of info is better kept to a PM.
Am I attempting to stir up trouble ? – Certainly not.
But I am - as you say entitled to my opinion and that is - some information is FACT ( as in the case of MARS h/o) and can not be disputed. So regardless of my opinion
( or whoever else’s) the fact IS – MARS New Zealand have a head office in Auckland. See above
In my opinion my pointing this out ( politely) is NOT stirring trouble – is that your idea of stirring trouble ? NOPE!
Outside of that I am truly sorry that your family is being spilt up and that must be really hard for you.
Please don't be sorry for me. I am not sorry for me only sorry for those that return to the past hoping to pick up where they left off. That will never happen as people move on and the old places are never the same when you go back years later. In my opinion in life you can only move forward and that is what I intend to do.
Have a nice day
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#309
Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
Originally Posted by shirl
I think it is a dangerous practice to post details of work places of members
FYI. This user is no longer able to respond
#311
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Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
Soupy was a good, fun poster on the whole, but did some norty things......I for one will mourn his passing........enjoy Oz Campbells..........
To old, bold and not so-good-as-gold posters......
To old, bold and not so-good-as-gold posters......
#312
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Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
I'm not so sure that wages are that much lower in NZ compared to the UK. Certainly if you come from the South East or London then you will probably earn more in the UK, but even then I'm not 100% convinced.
I knew plenty of IT contractors on £100K+ in London, but by the same token I knew plenty of full time IT people on a lot less - £20-£45K seems average, which is achievable in NZ. Senior roles maybe £60-70K. One of my friends is the IT Security Manager for one of the largest and most respected organisations in London and he is on £40K. It wouldn't be unrealistic for him to earn $120K in NZ. Large outsourcers like EDS, Fujitsu, Capita, Logica, CSC etc have hordes of people on these low salaries.
#314
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Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
also almost all the health workers I know took a pay hit from the NHS and that goes for tradies, etc, etc.
I could be wrong of course......but then all you really need to look at is the commercial hourly rates service sector co.s can charge - in my field I can charge $350 to $400 per hour to UK clients but only $150 - $200 to NZ clients. There is no way that this is going to translate into a better salary in NZ than in the UK - a couple of us have done the maths and found we are up to £2 or £3million worse off over a 20 year period. But who came to NZ for the money.....???
Back to the stats, the best data for comparison I can get for UK:
The results of the 2007 Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings (ASHE) show that median weekly pay for full-time employees in the UK grew by 2.9 per cent in the year to April 2007 to reach £457. Median earnings of full-time male employees was £498 per week in April 2007; for women the median was £394.
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=285
maybe hourly rates are better as all the NZ stats I can see are "weekly income" to include salary, investments, etc....and can't be apples/apples with the UK ones.........
see, this for NZ:
http://www.stats.govt.nz/products-an...tp-revised.htm
For people receiving income from wages and salaries, growth has been moderate since the June
2007 quarter. The median weekly wage and salary income increased 2.7 percent, up to $729.
This annual percentage change is the lowest since the June 2003 quarter and compares
with a 5.7 percent change between the June 2006 and June 2007 quarters....ie average $729.....
2007 quarter. The median weekly wage and salary income increased 2.7 percent, up to $729.
This annual percentage change is the lowest since the June 2003 quarter and compares
with a 5.7 percent change between the June 2006 and June 2007 quarters....ie average $729.....
but then us migrants are not average NZers.......well some of us engineers and specialists have ended up picking fruit and cutting lawns.......and that is often real NZ life
even so $729 is still not £457, in fact it is just over half.....at 2.8NZ to the £
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Re: Do you really want to come to NZ?
Lardyl, I'm pretty sure the NZ figures you have quoted include part-time earners, so are not directly comparable to the UK full-time figure you used. I remember reading in the Herald last year (sorry I don't have a link) that the full-time mean income here is around $45k, or $865pw. So, not far off the 2:1 "numbers" ratio I think is a rough guide to comparing UK to NZ earnings, eg £30k in UK is "like" $60k in NZ.
I know all comparisons are flawed in some ways though
I know all comparisons are flawed in some ways though