The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Sep 9th 2010, 2:32 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
If I go to a restaurant I expect to make a selection myself rather than appoint someone to make the decision for me.
The independents are servants to the electorate, not the electorates master. As such the independents need to do what the electorate want NOT what they think is best for their electorate. And cleary from the results, the electorate wanted them to ally with the coalition.
Windsor and Oakshott did what was in their own best interest rather than their electorates. Their actions are completely dishonourable and dismissive to their own voters. They won't be around for much longer.
The electorate spoke and Windsor and Oakshott ignored them.
The independents are servants to the electorate, not the electorates master. As such the independents need to do what the electorate want NOT what they think is best for their electorate. And cleary from the results, the electorate wanted them to ally with the coalition.
Windsor and Oakshott did what was in their own best interest rather than their electorates. Their actions are completely dishonourable and dismissive to their own voters. They won't be around for much longer.
The electorate spoke and Windsor and Oakshott ignored them.
As it was, they voted for the Independents and by doing so entrusted to them any decisions that had to be made.
If they don't like it they'll get a chance to vote for someone else at some point in the future.
Thats just how it works really, whether you like or not (and I'll go out on a limb and say that you don't
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Sep 9th 2010, 2:33 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
If the majority wanted the Coalition, then they should have voted for them.
As it was, they voted for the Independents and by doing so entrusted to them any decisions that had to be made.
If they don't like it they'll get a chance to vote for someone else at some point in the future.
Thats just how it works really, whether you like or not (and I'll go out on a limb and say that you don't)
As it was, they voted for the Independents and by doing so entrusted to them any decisions that had to be made.
If they don't like it they'll get a chance to vote for someone else at some point in the future.
Thats just how it works really, whether you like or not (and I'll go out on a limb and say that you don't
)You seem to forget we have preferences in Australia.
Sep 9th 2010, 2:43 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
I do agree with you though that Windsor and Oakie made their decision primarily in self interest.
Sep 9th 2010, 2:55 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Hmmm. I wonder if they are perhaps suffering some buyers remorse now. Strange how the indies [and the Greens] are now offering to support coalition policy in the areas that they like, irrespective of the wishes of the Labour government.
Abbott offered a slice of power
This really is starting to resemble a government of national unity...
I bet julia's none too pleased either...
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Sep 9th 2010, 3:08 am
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Sep 9th 2010, 3:35 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Hmmm. I wonder if they are perhaps suffering some buyers remorse now. Strange how the indies [and the Greens] are now offering to support coalition policy in the areas that they like, irrespective of the wishes of the Labour government.
Abbott offered a slice of power
This really is starting to resemble a government of national unity...
I bet julia's none too pleased either...
S
Abbott offered a slice of power
This really is starting to resemble a government of national unity...
I bet julia's none too pleased either...
S
Interesting article, Miss G certainly will get the hump. Interesting that the Liberal party isn't quite the happy ship it makes out to be either.
Sep 9th 2010, 4:12 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
The problem I have with this whole process, is that if you were to ask 100,000 (or even 1,000) random people "who do you want in power, labor or lnp?" - the majority would respond lnp.
Yet the independents have made decisions to support labor, without consulting the people. That's not democratic, in my opinion.
(ps - I don't really have any preference between lnp and labor.)
Sep 9th 2010, 4:26 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Maybe one positive about this election is that some people might have a think about how the system works and what they are voting for, although I won't hold my breath.
Sep 9th 2010, 4:40 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
I do agree with you though that Windsor and Oakie made their decision primarily in self interest.
Sep 9th 2010, 4:45 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Hmmm. I wonder if they are perhaps suffering some buyers remorse now. Strange how the indies [and the Greens] are now offering to support coalition policy in the areas that they like, irrespective of the wishes of the Labour government.
Abbott offered a slice of power
This really is starting to resemble a government of national unity...
I bet julia's none too pleased either...
S
Abbott offered a slice of power
This really is starting to resemble a government of national unity...
I bet julia's none too pleased either...
S
Sep 9th 2010, 7:52 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Sep 9th 2010, 8:27 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Our government was decided upon by :
An independent who said NBN was his deciding factor. He does not even own a computer and cannot use one by his own admission. I'm sure he had not made his mind up a couple of weeks before the decision when he described the Coalition as cancer.
An independent who probably wears a foil hat to bed at night under an Akubra to stop the thought police tracking him down and alien abductions.
A final independent whose decision to back a certain party was nothing to do with his new ministerial job.
Democracy at work. Rather than let their electorates decide they just spend 17 days standing on the street corner of parliament house prostituting.
Whilst not a labor fan, the manner in which the government has been returned is at best rather tawdry.
An independent who said NBN was his deciding factor. He does not even own a computer and cannot use one by his own admission. I'm sure he had not made his mind up a couple of weeks before the decision when he described the Coalition as cancer.
An independent who probably wears a foil hat to bed at night under an Akubra to stop the thought police tracking him down and alien abductions.
A final independent whose decision to back a certain party was nothing to do with his new ministerial job.
Democracy at work. Rather than let their electorates decide they just spend 17 days standing on the street corner of parliament house prostituting.
Whilst not a labor fan, the manner in which the government has been returned is at best rather tawdry.
Sep 9th 2010, 8:56 am
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Re: The Sensible Australian Election Thread
Our government was decided upon by :
An independent who said NBN was his deciding factor. He does not even own a computer and cannot use one by his own admission. I'm sure he had not made his mind up a couple of weeks before the decision when he described the Coalition as cancer.
An independent who probably wears a foil hat to bed at night under an Akubra to stop the thought police tracking him down and alien abductions.
A final independent whose decision to back a certain party was nothing to do with his new ministerial job.
Democracy at work. Rather than let their electorates decide they just spend 17 days standing on the street corner of parliament house prostituting.
Whilst not a labor fan, the manner in which the government has been returned is at best rather tawdry.
An independent who said NBN was his deciding factor. He does not even own a computer and cannot use one by his own admission. I'm sure he had not made his mind up a couple of weeks before the decision when he described the Coalition as cancer.
An independent who probably wears a foil hat to bed at night under an Akubra to stop the thought police tracking him down and alien abductions.
A final independent whose decision to back a certain party was nothing to do with his new ministerial job.
Democracy at work. Rather than let their electorates decide they just spend 17 days standing on the street corner of parliament house prostituting.
Whilst not a labor fan, the manner in which the government has been returned is at best rather tawdry.