What's your LEAST favorite thing about the US?
#301
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Or 'because guns make it safer'.
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Re: What's your LEAST favorite thing about the US?
It was such a non-argument at the best of times. A cursory look at these very forums will show plenty of born and bred Americans who don't much care for guns, for crying out loud. For that matter, if you don't like rain, don't live in Seattle. See, I can do it too ...
Guns, in and of themselves - are only tools - they are not the problem. It is the glorification, almost to the point of fanaticism of them and the often cavalier attitude that many (not all, I hasten to add) gun ownership advocates have with regards to using them to take a life, that I, personally, have a problem with. The argument that guns make us safer is also, I feel, a bit of a flawed one, but whatever.
Guns, in and of themselves - are only tools - they are not the problem. It is the glorification, almost to the point of fanaticism of them and the often cavalier attitude that many (not all, I hasten to add) gun ownership advocates have with regards to using them to take a life, that I, personally, have a problem with. The argument that guns make us safer is also, I feel, a bit of a flawed one, but whatever.
I never equated rain to guns and only made that statement to debunk simplifying complex issues.
I totally agree with you on the fact that guns are tools. Guns can also be part of a hobby, such as fly fishing rods and cars can be. In the case of guns and cars, many people die in the operation of both. Neither have ever killed anyone. It's the person behind the wheel or pulling the trigger that kills.
The immense majority of gun owners are not gun nuts and don't worship them nor are fanatics about the issue.
I agree that guns don't necessarily make anyone safer. As I stated before, that's highly dependent on many factors and situations.
Who said that no born and bred Americans had a problem with gun ownership? I did not say that. It is obvious that many American born people have a problem with them. That's why some parts of the U.S. have stricter gun laws than several European countries. You live in one of those: Illinois.
I never even attempted to make that point.
And yes, I don't want to live in Seattle because of the rain and I can't do anything about the rainfall there. So I just don't live there We are blessed to have such a diversity of climates to suit pretty much every taste.
I wasn't saying that ONLY in the U.S. can you voice your opinion... you can do that in most of the world of course...
Originally Posted by cluedweasel
My wife still can't see properly out of her right eye after being punched by someone for voicing the opinion that the UK health care system is superior to the US one.
Dude, where in the heck do you live and what kind of retards do you associate with??
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Re: What's your LEAST favorite thing about the US?
I never equated rain to guns and only made that statement to debunk simplifying complex issues.
I totally agree with you on the fact that guns are tools. Guns can also be part of a hobby, such as fly fishing rods and cars can be. In the case of guns and cars, many people die in the operation of both. Neither have ever killed anyone. It's the person behind the wheel or pulling the trigger that kills.
The immense majority of gun owners are not gun nuts and don't worship them nor are fanatics about the issue.
I agree that guns don't necessarily make anyone safer. As I stated before, that's highly dependent on many factors and situations.
Who said that no born and bred Americans had a problem with gun ownership? I did not say that. It is obvious that many American born people have a problem with them. That's why some parts of the U.S. have stricter gun laws than several European countries. You live in one of those: Illinois.
I never even attempted to make that point.
And yes, I don't want to live in Seattle because of the rain and I can't do anything about the rainfall there. So I just don't live there We are blessed to have such a diversity of climates to suit pretty much every taste.
I wasn't saying that ONLY in the U.S. can you voice your opinion... you can do that in most of the world of course...
Dude, where in the heck do you live and what kind of retards do you associate with??
I totally agree with you on the fact that guns are tools. Guns can also be part of a hobby, such as fly fishing rods and cars can be. In the case of guns and cars, many people die in the operation of both. Neither have ever killed anyone. It's the person behind the wheel or pulling the trigger that kills.
The immense majority of gun owners are not gun nuts and don't worship them nor are fanatics about the issue.
I agree that guns don't necessarily make anyone safer. As I stated before, that's highly dependent on many factors and situations.
Who said that no born and bred Americans had a problem with gun ownership? I did not say that. It is obvious that many American born people have a problem with them. That's why some parts of the U.S. have stricter gun laws than several European countries. You live in one of those: Illinois.
I never even attempted to make that point.
And yes, I don't want to live in Seattle because of the rain and I can't do anything about the rainfall there. So I just don't live there We are blessed to have such a diversity of climates to suit pretty much every taste.
I wasn't saying that ONLY in the U.S. can you voice your opinion... you can do that in most of the world of course...
Dude, where in the heck do you live and what kind of retards do you associate with??
That's the thing about silent majorities. You can't hear them ...
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Re: What's your LEAST favorite thing about the US?
Manchester is usually the one that gets picked on but it isn't even the rainiest city in the UK. There are quite a few UK cities that get more rain.
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Re: What's your LEAST favorite thing about the US?
Re guns. I was in a shop buying fishing tackle and the guy said that guns make the country safer. I suggested that the annual country wide death toll was more than the population of the town we were in, or half of all the US people killed in Vietnam didnt seem to me to make the country safer. If guns made the place safe, no one would get shot. But loads of people get shot. I cant remember his reaction, my wife pretty much frog marched me out of there.
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Why would you be shocked? I'm the narcissist and you are?...the guardian of 'American culture" I suppose to label my words 'cultural faux pas'...
Don't pity me, I'm quite all right believe it or not and have no use for anyone's pity. I do just fine without being PC. Maybe it's because of the environment I evolve in...who knows?
Who are these locals you constantly refer to? I think I may be one of them...
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To many Brits 'retard' is just not a word used in polite society, it used to shock me until I realized it did not carry the same weight over here, but it still sounds odd and a bit funny to my ears.
A bit like the word 'spaz' that Tiger Woods had to make an apology for when he used the word during the Masters.
I did not call you are a narcissist.
Its Brit culture, so I suppose I am one of 60+ million guardians of Brit culture, its in British culture that it is a faux pas. We are on a Brit expat site.
You are VA I am WA, so far from being local.
A bit like the word 'spaz' that Tiger Woods had to make an apology for when he used the word during the Masters.
Its Brit culture, so I suppose I am one of 60+ million guardians of Brit culture, its in British culture that it is a faux pas. We are on a Brit expat site.
You are VA I am WA, so far from being local.
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This is quite funny, see some good comes out of this, we are both laughing.
Why would you be shocked? I'm the narcissist and you are?...the guardian of 'American culture" I suppose to label my words 'cultural faux pas'...
Don't pity me, I'm quite all right believe it or not and have no use for anyone's pity. I do just fine without being PC. Maybe it's because of the environment I evolve in...who knows?
Who are these locals you constantly refer to? I think I may be one of them...
Why would you be shocked? I'm the narcissist and you are?...the guardian of 'American culture" I suppose to label my words 'cultural faux pas'...
Don't pity me, I'm quite all right believe it or not and have no use for anyone's pity. I do just fine without being PC. Maybe it's because of the environment I evolve in...who knows?
Who are these locals you constantly refer to? I think I may be one of them...
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Re: What's your LEAST favorite thing about the US?
To many Brits 'retard' is just not a word used in polite society, it used to shock me until I realized it did not carry the same weight over here, but it still sounds odd and a bit funny to my ears.
A bit like the word 'spaz' that Tiger Woods had to make an apology for when he used the word during the Masters.
I did not call you are a narcissist.
Its Brit culture, so I suppose I am one of 60+ million guardians of Brit culture, its in British culture that it is a faux pas. We are on a Brit expat site.
You are VA I am WA, so far from being local.
A bit like the word 'spaz' that Tiger Woods had to make an apology for when he used the word during the Masters.
I did not call you are a narcissist.
Its Brit culture, so I suppose I am one of 60+ million guardians of Brit culture, its in British culture that it is a faux pas. We are on a Brit expat site.
You are VA I am WA, so far from being local.
I'm glad you pointed the retard thing out to me. I will now be careful around people from GB, I will try not to use the word 'retard' anymore. I learned something today and I truly thank you for that.
You're absolutely right, it is a British expat site. I guess I came to learn something and I did. This is fascinating.
As far as the local thing goes, I guess that strictly locally speaking, in my locality at least, I am a local indeed. I wasn't saying that I was a local in WA.
This is good stuff.
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Re: What's your LEAST favorite thing about the US?
Sure, I apologize, can't please everyone. Nor should anyone try, as trying to please everyone is a hallmark of failure to come.
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I have lived here for 14 years now. I generally like it but I've heard people complain about many different issues. Here are some of the things that irk me:
- dealing with health insurance and health coverage issues
- totally broken immigration system (too many illegal immigrants, too much family class immigration, not enough skilled worker immigration, etc.)
- a relative lack of culture (too many homogeneous cities and suburbs)
- the political system (total gridlock where nothing gets done; especially with a 2 party system)
- the absence of a social safety net (lose your job and you're likely weeks from living on the street)
- "at will" employment
- poor public transportation
- pedestrian unfriendly
- relatively high crime and murder rates (guns, gangs, etc)
- urban blight and poverty on a scale rarely seen in other developed countries
- dealing with health insurance and health coverage issues
- totally broken immigration system (too many illegal immigrants, too much family class immigration, not enough skilled worker immigration, etc.)
- a relative lack of culture (too many homogeneous cities and suburbs)
- the political system (total gridlock where nothing gets done; especially with a 2 party system)
- the absence of a social safety net (lose your job and you're likely weeks from living on the street)
- "at will" employment
- poor public transportation
- pedestrian unfriendly
- relatively high crime and murder rates (guns, gangs, etc)
- urban blight and poverty on a scale rarely seen in other developed countries
1..I hate, detest, despise loath dislike the AT WILL STATES. and how they abuse that position. Michigan along with a few others are just that..AT WILL, no excuse is required to get rid of you, so much as burp and they dont like like it because you failed to say excuse me....trivial I know, but I have been here for a year, my business is getting stonewalled every corner I turn and all the jobs I have applied for I have been more than qualified for and not one thanks but no thanks letter or email....One company in particular is the worst to work for I hear is Menards similar to BIG W when it was around in England, they employ people usually 10 at a time and bang on the 59th day, 9 have been let go...Pure abuse of the system.
2..The taxation system is a bit of a joke. There is a tax for just about everything..A nation that disapproved of the taxation prior to 1776 go and introduce a tax for tax method....I joke with my wife and her family over it and its all good, father in law is totally on my side...lol
3..Michigan has a mandatory insurance, and its only Michigan so I have been told. Mandatory PPI personal protection insurance for your car, this adds around $200 to the bill.
4..Certain insurance companies dont do monthly auto pay methods, you have to pay by check and every 3 months, huge chunk of money gone by then if we cant save a bit each fortnight!
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I'm pretty sure that's a no-no, even here...??...