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Old Jul 17th 2005 | 6:02 am
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Old Jul 17th 2005 | 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by Celtic_Angel
....on a day to day level my kids have more exposure and more experiences with people from different cultures than I ever did, maybe it's the difference between a city and a town
That's all on the flipside of where you are, there's bugger all diversity over in maine, see a black person walk the streets and everyone does a double take because they don't expect to see one...so yeah, not a diverse state...had far more diversity living in England, had loads of mates from all over the place, iran, iraq, india, pakistan, bangladesh, south africa, oz etc...just dont' get that in this part of the US though...
 
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Originally Posted by cindyabs
I think you missed my query that perhaps the makeup of diversity in NYC and London were different.
I think you mean the ethnic, national and racial groups that make up both cities. If that's the case, there would be a difference.

For example, in the US in general, I think it's true to say that there are more Vietnamese, Phillipinno, Korean and Cuban emigrants but in the UK you'd find that there are more East Indian (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) emigrants.



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Old Jul 17th 2005 | 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by NC Penguin
I think you mean the ethnic, national and racial groups that make up both cities. If that's the case, there would be a difference.

For example, in the US in general, I think it's true to say that there are more Vietnamese, Phillipinno, Korean and Cuban emigrants but in the UK you'd find that there are more East Indian (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) emigrants.



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Old Jul 17th 2005 | 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by Bob
That's all on the flipside of where you are, there's bugger all diversity over in maine, see a black person walk the streets and everyone does a double take because they don't expect to see one...so yeah, not a diverse state...had far more diversity living in England, had loads of mates from all over the place, iran, iraq, india, pakistan, bangladesh, south africa, oz etc...just dont' get that in this part of the US though...

Very true Bob. Where I grew up, there were a black couple (originally from Jamaica) that had a dress shop. That was it for the non Caucasian population. Oh and also 30 miles away was a black lawyer who became a state supreme court justice in New Hampshire. So yes I grew up in an isolated environment but then it was up in the sticks after all. However, when I went off to college my introduction to the real world began, Then came the Army and living where we were told to go.
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by callé
sorry, but I agree with him. Thats not to say for everybody, but if you have doubts, dont put it off to long. me... I have 3and 1/2 months to go. I'm going home.

You are very lucky! I'm 13 months out....arghhhhhhhhhh!!!
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 9:26 am
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If I was not married to a USC then I would not be living here (although I could legally through my L1)

Most things in America are worse than in the UK I left behind 2 years ago. Seriously, the only thing I think is better in the USA is the price of petrol and the weather where I live (which helps facilitate a better quality of life in some respects)

HOWEVER

The UK has seemed to have changed disproportionately in the last two years, developing a thuggish street culture where happy slapping incidents abound and where the government plans to reward under-16 year old mothers with a cash grant of 5000 quid for what is essentially an illegal activity

I've been to the UK several times in the last year and the UK is a lot less desirable as a place of residence to me.

But...

I think the reality now is that I am used to having a great house and a great car that would be out of my reach in the UK and this combined with more disposable income would be the decider for me to stay in the USA

So the upshot is I have to put up with

Shite healthcare system
Shite food
Shite education for my kids
Guncrime - a friend was recently killed in a essentially random shooting
House made of wood and asphalt shingles
Insular and ignorant people around me
Integration of church and state

in order that I can maintain my materialistic lifestyle

It's a conundrum
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
If I was not married to a USC then I would not be living here (although I could legally through my L1)

Most things in America are worse than in the UK I left behind 2 years ago. Seriously, the only thing I think is better in the USA is the price of petrol and the weather where I live (which helps facilitate a better quality of life in some respects)

HOWEVER

The UK has seemed to have changed disproportionately in the last two years, developing a thuggish street culture where happy slapping incidents abound and where the government plans to reward under-16 year old mothers with a cash grant of 5000 quid for what is essentially an illegal activity

I've been to the UK several times in the last year and the UK is a lot less desirable as a place of residence to me.

But...

I think the reality now is that I am used to having a great house and a great car that would be out of my reach in the UK and this combined with more disposable income would be the decider for me to stay in the USA

So the upshot is I have to put up with

Shite healthcare system
Shite food
Shite education for my kids
Guncrime - a friend was recently killed in a essentially random shooting
House made of wood and asphalt shingles
Insular and ignorant people around me
Integration of church and state

in order that I can maintain my materialistic lifestyle

It's a conundrum

Become a Bhuddist. Conumdrum sorted.
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
Shite healthcare system
Shite food
Shite education for my kids
Guncrime - a friend was recently killed in a essentially random shooting
House made of wood and asphalt shingles
Insular and ignorant people around me
Integration of church and state
Money makes the healthcare acceptable. My personal experiance is limited to Dentist for me, v good, and taking Grandchildren to Doctors, equally good.

Find the food OK, but I am sure it varies by region.

Actually a lot less here than when I lived in London, and at least they seem to get their just results if caught.

Housing, well yes and no, so dry where I am that construction style makes sense and god knows how much it would have cost in brick

Location, location, location.

I read about it, but have not actually seen it here. Now if I lived in Colorado Springs it may be a different story.
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Bob
That's all on the flipside of where you are, there's bugger all diversity over in maine, see a black person walk the streets and everyone does a double take because they don't expect to see one...so yeah, not a diverse state...had far more diversity living in England, had loads of mates from all over the place, iran, iraq, india, pakistan, bangladesh, south africa, oz etc...just dont' get that in this part of the US though...
yeah I think you are right , it's obviously a town V's city thing....if I was living in Smallville U.S .A I'd probably go running crazy through the hills!!!! :scared: I complain about the volume of traffic but I'd miss the hustle and bustle and especially the diversity you get while living in a city
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by ImHere
Erm, I read its U.S or Them. I could be wrong...who started it now?
Really? Where did the period come into play? Do you see a period in the title of this thread?

As far as my ticker tape.....put me on ignore if you truly don't like it. Another 16 days and counting....
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by Bob
That's all on the flipside of where you are, there's bugger all diversity over in maine, see a black person walk the streets and everyone does a double take because they don't expect to see one...so yeah, not a diverse state...had far more diversity living in England, had loads of mates from all over the place, iran, iraq, india, pakistan, bangladesh, south africa, oz etc...just dont' get that in this part of the US though...
Perhaps it was where you were living as well Bob. In Harrogate, North Yorkshire I very rarely saw anyone from a different culture. In my MIL's town of Dunblane Scotland, I again never saw anyone from a different culture. You can generalise all you want, but in the long run....its all down to where you live and no place is any better than any other. Its just different!
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Perhaps it was where you were living as well Bob. In Harrogate, North Yorkshire I very rarely saw anyone from a different culture. In my MIL's town of Dunblane Scotland, I again never saw anyone from a different culture. You can generalise all you want, but in the long run....its all down to where you live and no place is any better than any other. Its just different!
That's what I was saying, it's all on the flip side, and it really depends on where your living in either country.
 
Old Jul 17th 2005 | 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Really? Where did the period come into play? Do you see a period in the title of this thread?

As far as my ticker tape.....put me on ignore if you truly don't like it. Another 16 days and counting....
The full stop came into play so I could emphasise that I was reading US as U . S . not us since both letters are capitalised. I realise this is a difficult concept but please to try to follow.

Im not that small minded.

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Old Jul 17th 2005 | 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ImHere
The full stop came into play so I could emphasise that I was reading US as U . S . not us since both letters are capitalised. I realise this is a difficult concept but please to try to follow.

Im not that small minded.


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