Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
#46
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
And the last job I had before I left the UK was working for Sainsburys......had I stayed into the new year (we moved in January, I quit working for them in December) I was going to have to book my four weeks off for the whole year.
Next time you're there, wander into Tescos or Sainsburys and ask the checkout girl/guy if she has to book her holidays for the whole year. Or ask a nurse....of course there's still the chance my mil is making this up.....
Last edited by AmerLisa; Oct 5th 2009 at 12:58 am.
#47
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
In January when my MIL calls to arrange dates to come out and see us because she has to book her holidays for the year, I'll tell her she's making it up. I knew something was fishy.....
And the last job I had before I left the UK was working for Sainsburys......had I stayed into the new year (we moved in January, I quit working for them in December) I was going to have to book my four weeks off for the whole year.
Next time you're there, wander into Tescos or Sainsburys and ask the checkout girl/guy if she has to book her holidays for the whole year. Or ask a nurse....of course there's still the chance my mil is making this up.....
And the last job I had before I left the UK was working for Sainsburys......had I stayed into the new year (we moved in January, I quit working for them in December) I was going to have to book my four weeks off for the whole year.
Next time you're there, wander into Tescos or Sainsburys and ask the checkout girl/guy if she has to book her holidays for the whole year. Or ask a nurse....of course there's still the chance my mil is making this up.....
#48
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Also, as somebody mentioned, very common in the retail industry and any sector that needs to stay open 24/7. I know hospital staff in both US and UK that have this issue too.
#49
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
also when I worked in a nursing home we had to book holidays at the beginning of the year...
so i guess in some parts it does happen
#50
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
what dream? there's no dream these days.
Life is what you make of it, not the country.
Life is what you make of it, not the country.
#51
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
I haven't found that to be true....CoL is pretty much the same, car might be cheaper but the insurance/tax is much higher etc and no way has housing been cheaper here, rent up in Maine perhaps, but then so would rent in Wales or up north.
#52
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Both my mil and my husband's aunt have and have done it for years. My husband's aunt works for Tescos, she was not allowed to take time off for our wedding, 10 years ago because it wasn't already booked. My mil is a nurse, her holidays have to be booked a year in advance, it has been that way since I've known her, 12 years now.
#53
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
I realize what Lisa wrote; I'm informing her that it also takes place in the US -if indeed it does take place in the UK. Since it's likely industry-specific, maybe someone who hasn't worked in a shop doesn't know about it.
The industry I'm thinking of is retail, which does dovetail with what she said.
I conclude that it very likely goes on in both countries. Some people have to schedule (with the employer) when their vacation time from work will be, at the beginning of the year.
What's the policy in your industry?
The industry I'm thinking of is retail, which does dovetail with what she said.
I conclude that it very likely goes on in both countries. Some people have to schedule (with the employer) when their vacation time from work will be, at the beginning of the year.
What's the policy in your industry?
#54
Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my previous post. I was referring to working in the UK where I worked in the manufacturing/engineering sector, and it is definitely common practice to have 'first come first serve'. And believe me, it was dog eat dog with the guys that had children who wanted some of the school holidays off.
Definitely industry specific, but not something I would call all that common across the country.
#55
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
In an attempt to rescue this thread from AmerLisa's normal modus operandi of sidetracking threads into ratholes, here's my take on the "American dream": it's far less obtainable than it was 25 years ago for the simple reason that social mobility is evaporating in the face of global competition. A quarter of a century ago, it was pretty easy for someone with a blue collar job to have steady employment and a very comfortable lifestyle. Nowadays, not so much: many of those jobs have gone forever and the financial pressures for individuals are that much higher from things like health care costs etc. And the cost of getting educated has far outpaced the rate of inflation, with the additional costs weighing down graduates in debt. With a graduate unemployment rate of about 35%, we now have a situation where large numbers of folks who should used to be illustrative of social mobility are now swamped with debt and lacking healthcare.
#56
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Why would it be hard to think it wasn't the norm for retail (grocery stores in this case) or nurses? My mil is not working in a nhs hospital, she works in a convalescent hospital, is that different? Don't know. But she has to plan her year out for her holidays. My husband's aunt is the same way. First hand knowledge when I worked for Sainsbury's, I was going to have to do the same thing.
#58
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
In an attempt to rescue this thread from AmerLisa's normal modus operandi of sidetracking threads into ratholes, here's my take on the "American dream": it's far less obtainable than it was 25 years ago for the simple reason that social mobility is evaporating in the face of global competition. A quarter of a century ago, it was pretty easy for someone with a blue collar job to have steady employment and a very comfortable lifestyle. Nowadays, not so much: many of those jobs have gone forever and the financial pressures for individuals are that much higher from things like health care costs etc. And the cost of getting educated has far outpaced the rate of inflation, with the additional costs weighing down graduates in debt. With a graduate unemployment rate of about 35%, we now have a situation where large numbers of folks who should used to be illustrative of social mobility are now swamped with debt and lacking healthcare.