Renouncing British citizenship
Aug 24th 2012 | 2:29 pm
#46
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
It was a quick process, less than a month or so.
I renounced so that I could join the US military in order to lessen the burden of dental school debt, and planned on regaining citizenship after my US military stint was over. I was clear about this when contacting the British embassy. They assured me I could regain full status as a citizen one time. Perfect, right?
I renounced so that I could join the US military in order to lessen the burden of dental school debt, and planned on regaining citizenship after my US military stint was over. I was clear about this when contacting the British embassy. They assured me I could regain full status as a citizen one time. Perfect, right?
Renunciation for career reasons does not carry an entitlement to resume, although it may be considered at the discretion of the Secretary of State. For details on the policy, see Chapter 17 of the Nationality Instructions.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/po...ctions/nivol1/
No. I still regret it. I did re-gain UK citizenship. After the oath ceremony I asked how I can ensure my unborn daughter to be will also be able to become a citizen of the UK. I was immediately told that while I was just assured that I have regained my "previous citizenship status", I now can not pass on my citizenship to any children. i.e. I do not have the same status.
Or are you asking about a child born in the window of time when you were not a British citizen?
They did assure me however, that my children will be allowed to live and work in the UK as long as I am also in the UK.
Aug 24th 2012 | 2:58 pm
#47
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
Untrue in fact. Entitlement to registration is only for those who renounced to acquire or retain another citizenship.
Renunciation for career reasons does not carry an entitlement to resume, although it may be considered at the discretion of the Secretary of State. For details on the policy, see Chapter 17 of the Nationality Instructions.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/po...ctions/nivol1/
Untrue. If you were a British citizen otherwise than by descent before renunciation, you become a British citizen otherwise than by descent upon resumption.
Or are you asking about a child born in the window of time when you were not a British citizen?
If not British citizens, or EEA/Swiss citizens, they will always need the appropriate settlement visa.
Renunciation for career reasons does not carry an entitlement to resume, although it may be considered at the discretion of the Secretary of State. For details on the policy, see Chapter 17 of the Nationality Instructions.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/po...ctions/nivol1/
Untrue. If you were a British citizen otherwise than by descent before renunciation, you become a British citizen otherwise than by descent upon resumption.
Or are you asking about a child born in the window of time when you were not a British citizen?
If not British citizens, or EEA/Swiss citizens, they will always need the appropriate settlement visa.
I'm happy to have citizenship back at all from what you say.
If I may ask- given your apparent knowledge on the subject - do you think I will be able to pass on citizenship to my daughter? I had regained UK citizenship a few months before she was born.
By the way, I was born in the UK to British parents.
If you have the time, I'd appreciate your opinion.
Sincerely,
P.
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Aug 24th 2012 | 3:29 pm
#48
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
If that's the case it appears she is a British citizen by descent (since you were born in the U.K.). You should get her a consular birth certificate and then a British passport to document this.
Of course, if there are other complications, such as if she was born before July 2006 and you are an unmarried father, then further formalities will be required before she turns 18 for her to be British.
Aug 24th 2012 | 4:25 pm
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
It was a quick process, less than a month or so.
I renounced so that I could join the US military in order to lessen the burden of dental school debt, and planned on regaining citizenship after my US military stint was over. I was clear about this when contacting the British embassy. They assured me I could regain full status as a citizen one time. Perfect, right?
No. I still regret it. I did re-gain UK citizenship. After the oath ceremony I asked how I can ensure my unborn daughter to be will also be able to become a citizen of the UK. I was immediately told that while I was just assured that I have regained my "previous citizenship status", I now can not pass on my citizenship to any children. i.e. I do not have the same status.
I don't feel this was made clear to me given that I stated that I will only cease to be British for a short while.
They did assure me however, that my children will be allowed to live and work in the UK as long as I am also in the UK. Considering what had happened until then I am not convinced that even that is true.
So, my advice is obvious: don't renounce unless you really have to. UK citizenship is too precious a thing to place in jeopardy.
Short question, long answer. I hope this helps.
P.
I renounced so that I could join the US military in order to lessen the burden of dental school debt, and planned on regaining citizenship after my US military stint was over. I was clear about this when contacting the British embassy. They assured me I could regain full status as a citizen one time. Perfect, right?
No. I still regret it. I did re-gain UK citizenship. After the oath ceremony I asked how I can ensure my unborn daughter to be will also be able to become a citizen of the UK. I was immediately told that while I was just assured that I have regained my "previous citizenship status", I now can not pass on my citizenship to any children. i.e. I do not have the same status.
I don't feel this was made clear to me given that I stated that I will only cease to be British for a short while.
They did assure me however, that my children will be allowed to live and work in the UK as long as I am also in the UK. Considering what had happened until then I am not convinced that even that is true.
So, my advice is obvious: don't renounce unless you really have to. UK citizenship is too precious a thing to place in jeopardy.
Short question, long answer. I hope this helps.
P.
Aug 24th 2012 | 4:55 pm
#50
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
JAJ,
Thank you for your response!
I do have a "Certificate of Registration as a British Citizen" for myself dated June 2010, before my daughter was born. It is labeled Section 13(1) rather than the Section 13(3) you described. Do you know if that is important?
She was born September 2010 to married parents, so thankfully matters ought to be straightforward.
Thank you again for your detailed and informative replies, they are truly appreciated.
Sincerely,
P.
Thank you for your response!
I do have a "Certificate of Registration as a British Citizen" for myself dated June 2010, before my daughter was born. It is labeled Section 13(1) rather than the Section 13(3) you described. Do you know if that is important?
She was born September 2010 to married parents, so thankfully matters ought to be straightforward.
Thank you again for your detailed and informative replies, they are truly appreciated.
Sincerely,
P.
Aug 25th 2012 | 2:05 am
#51
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
Did you have to attend a citizenship ceremony at the British Consulate/Embassy to get your certificate?
She was born September 2010 to married parents, so thankfully matters ought to be straightforward.
Aug 27th 2012 | 1:21 pm
#53
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Re: Renouncing British citizenship
I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would give up their UK citizenship for any reason, how insane is that?
As many have said you are not required to give up you UK citizenship to join the military. I asked a recruiter that same question and told him under no circumstances would i ever give it up and would that be an issue, i was told no it wouldn't be, except for some high clearance jobs, it might cause issues.
But I go back to my original comment, why would you ever do such a fool hardy thing, you not only renounce your UK citizenship, but you also give up the whole of Europe in terms of living and working in over 20 other countries.
Then you find out this will affect your daughter after the fact, sounds like you did zero research on this before you gave it up. Personally I find that shocking, dont mean to bitch you out, but its a little wacky.
As many have said you are not required to give up you UK citizenship to join the military. I asked a recruiter that same question and told him under no circumstances would i ever give it up and would that be an issue, i was told no it wouldn't be, except for some high clearance jobs, it might cause issues.
But I go back to my original comment, why would you ever do such a fool hardy thing, you not only renounce your UK citizenship, but you also give up the whole of Europe in terms of living and working in over 20 other countries.
Then you find out this will affect your daughter after the fact, sounds like you did zero research on this before you gave it up. Personally I find that shocking, dont mean to bitch you out, but its a little wacky.
