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Old Feb 9th 2016, 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Owen778
Beware, there are several issues with using that data to draw the conclusions you're looking for:

1. It includes capital and operating expenditure. The comparison you should make is with opex only. You can click onto the second tab to get this.
2. I'm guessing those are mean values. Within each country, and even within each producing sedimentary basin, there is a lot of variation.
3. Just as important, a temporary stop in production has a significant associated cost. This includes the cost of well intervention for turning the well off and later back on, laying off staff, and later rehiring and training new staff when start-up begins, ongoing maintenance of the shut-in facilities, and many others. Even if opex currently exceeds oil price, if the low oil price will only persist for a few months, it is still better to keep producing.
I agree, and would add the following, from a different perspective: it is perfectly possible for a business to keep on running in the short term, meaning several years, while reporting losses, and many businesses do just that.

The important thing is that the business continues to generate cashflow even if it can't report a profit, because bills still have to be paid, and as long as oil is being pumped and sold money will continue to flow in and is available for paying employees, suppliers, contractors, and arguably most importantly, the banks, because if you default on your loans the banks will seize the business or its assets, then you won't have a business! Even if in theory you could shutter the business (and as Owen said, you really can't), you can't suspend repayments on your borrowings without defaulting.

The paradox is that when prices collapse the incentive is for a finance-constrained business (one with large loans) to pump MORE oil, not less so as to maximise profit (if any), and cashflow.
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Old Feb 9th 2016, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
There's always that one outlier, isn't there?
The one on the edge of town that is literally across the street from a place that is always at least 30c cheaper a gallon only seems to still be in business because they have a Dunkin' D's inside and they're a whole mile and a bit away from the next Dunkin' D's...that's attached to another petrol station and much cheaper
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1.149 here today.

Cash on hand and access to debt will determine the survival of many of the E&Ps. The integrated companies also have the natural hedge that comes from having refineries - there is still a margin to be made in the downstream business.

After that, ability to cut capital while maintaining output at a reasonable level will be an interesting one (from the outside, anyway). Each individual unconventional well has a producing life of 40-50 years, but the initial decline can be greater than 70% in year one of production (from initial production - IP - through to day 365), depending on the basin. Different operators have different choke management strategies - rip it open now and you will get bigger rates, but have a negative impact on expected ultimate recovery.

There is also a fixed and variable component to OPEX; each incremental well I bring online costs me less to operate.

Expect to see more late life/mature fields shuttered early - there is little future upside to keeping them going. The resource plays can pause, and then be brought back with drilling when prices recover enough to get going again. Price probably needs to be $50-60 for that to happen, but that isn't enough to see long-cycle projects be approved.
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After holding at $167.9 for seemingly forever, whilst the local competitors eventually caught up with that price, my local 7/11 today dropped two cents to $165.9.
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$1.459 on the way back from the Parade.
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I filled up last night at $1.479, down another 3¢.
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Old Feb 15th 2016, 6:31 pm
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$2.something in CA yesterday. Oh well.
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Old Feb 15th 2016, 9:22 pm
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I was happy with $1.67G today.

In-laws said it was $1.53G on their way home from Portland, out around Yarmouth, ME.
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2.55 in Costco!
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Originally Posted by Boiler
$1.459 on the way back from the Parade.

That was Costco.
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Filled up for $1.99 today... on the border

(Not the restaurant chain, the actual border).
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Filled up for $1.99 today... on the border. .....

(Not the restaurant chain, the actual border).
$1.99 is just sooo last year!
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Old Feb 16th 2016, 12:57 pm
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Seems to have evened out in the $1.50s round our way for now. It was at $1.39 last week.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
$1.99 is just sooo last year!
I was shocked to see a '1'in the price. Not used to seeing that in Southern Cal. Had to double check and rub my eyes a couple times.
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1.399 at Costco, 28 gallons with filling my Can.
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