Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Aug 17th 2005, 2:46 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Until they happen to you, a family member or a close friend. Then would you be so smug? 
I should add, "accidents" happen when my four year old doesn't make it in time to the toilet.....not an innocent man being shot 8 times.
I should add, "accidents" happen when my four year old doesn't make it in time to the toilet.....not an innocent man being shot 8 times.
Seems my sarcasm was wasted!
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Aug 17th 2005, 2:57 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by CarlM
You're right - when one of my overstaying family jumps a tube train barrier and gets told to stop, then gets pinned down and shot on suspicion of being an Arab, i shall be sure to think again!
Seems my sarcasm was wasted!
Seems my sarcasm was wasted!
Aug 17th 2005, 2:59 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
[QUOTE=AmerLisa]
What kind of criminal warrants being restrained and then 8 shots poured into him?
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A potential suicide bomber who in a split second can blow up a train load of people.
They also should disbar the rent a mob lawyers who rush to steal money form the British public in this matter. Since when do we pay criminals compensation ?
The guy was an illegal immigrant and had no right to be in the UK.
What kind of criminal warrants being restrained and then 8 shots poured into him?
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A potential suicide bomber who in a split second can blow up a train load of people.
They also should disbar the rent a mob lawyers who rush to steal money form the British public in this matter. Since when do we pay criminals compensation ?
The guy was an illegal immigrant and had no right to be in the UK.
Aug 17th 2005, 3:01 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Mind you, I think the Underground should have refunded the unused portion of his railcard to the family though. Less a fee for the paperwork involved.
Aug 17th 2005, 3:01 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
Do you really think he was shot on suspicion that he was an Arab?
Aug 17th 2005, 3:03 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by CarlM
Well, in all the time i lived in London - i never saw the Police execute anyone for fare dodging.
Aug 17th 2005, 3:04 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by doctor scrumpy
A potential suicide bomber who in a split second can blow up a train load of people.
or lets lock everyone up for life, we are all potentially murderers.
I'd like a stack of DUI's also because everytime I get drunk I can potentially drive a car.
Aug 17th 2005, 3:05 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by doctor scrumpy
Mind you, I think the Underground should have refunded the unused portion of his railcard to the family though. Less a fee for the paperwork involved.
Aug 17th 2005, 3:08 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by Manc
I'd like a stack of DUI's also because everytime I get drunk I can potentially drive a car.
Who said you had to be drunk to be a bad driver Manc ?
Aug 17th 2005, 3:26 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Hey they had to clean the claret off the train station you know. Maybe the poor Mrs Mopp who had that job should get compensation for the stress caused of knowing it was a murdered man's blood and brains she was dealing with ?
Aug 17th 2005, 4:02 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by doctor scrumpy
Mind you, I think the Underground should have refunded the unused portion of his railcard to the family though. Less a fee for the paperwork involved.
Aug 17th 2005, 4:06 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by ImHere
"Heavy coat
"He [the suspect] had a baseball cap on and quite a sort of thickish coat - it was a coat you'd wear in winter, sort of like a padded jacket"
Somewhat different to what witnesses are now saying.
Arrive on scene to an accident surrounded by witnesses..ask 4 different people what just happened and get 4 very different answers. Believe me witnesses are very unreliable.
"He [the suspect] had a baseball cap on and quite a sort of thickish coat - it was a coat you'd wear in winter, sort of like a padded jacket"
Somewhat different to what witnesses are now saying.
Arrive on scene to an accident surrounded by witnesses..ask 4 different people what just happened and get 4 very different answers. Believe me witnesses are very unreliable.
Aug 17th 2005, 4:17 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by ImHere
The police had seconds to make a life or death decision.
"The current strategy around the address was as follows: No subject coming out of the address would be allowed to run, and that an interception should take place as soon as possible away from the address, trying not to compromise it."
But this does not explain why, if police believed he was a suspected suicide bomber, he was allowed to walk from his home, board a bus and travel several miles before getting off, going into the tube station, and down the escalator on to a train, potentially putting dozens of passengers at risk.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlo...550669,00.html
I have the greatest respect and admiration for the British police and the work they do, but that does not mean I have to think they're infallible: in this case it looks like they ****ed up. Big time.
Aug 17th 2005, 4:36 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by Big D
If it turns out to be true? But if it was a cover up why not fabricate that he WAS linked to the bombings??
Until we get the answer from the investigation this is all really speculation and out of context. If it turns out to be true it is unlikely to be covered up now anyway - then we can say what a bloody disgrace this was.
Until we get the answer from the investigation this is all really speculation and out of context. If it turns out to be true it is unlikely to be covered up now anyway - then we can say what a bloody disgrace this was.
Aug 17th 2005, 4:38 pm
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Re: Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
Originally Posted by elfman
This is wrong if the police statements in the leaked report are true:
"The current strategy around the address was as follows: No subject coming out of the address would be allowed to run, and that an interception should take place as soon as possible away from the address, trying not to compromise it."
But this does not explain why, if police believed he was a suspected suicide bomber, he was allowed to walk from his home, board a bus and travel several miles before getting off, going into the tube station, and down the escalator on to a train, potentially putting dozens of passengers at risk.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlo...550669,00.html
I have the greatest respect and admiration for the British police and the work they do, but that does not mean I have to think they're infallible: in this case it looks like they ****ed up. Big time.
"The current strategy around the address was as follows: No subject coming out of the address would be allowed to run, and that an interception should take place as soon as possible away from the address, trying not to compromise it."
But this does not explain why, if police believed he was a suspected suicide bomber, he was allowed to walk from his home, board a bus and travel several miles before getting off, going into the tube station, and down the escalator on to a train, potentially putting dozens of passengers at risk.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlo...550669,00.html
I have the greatest respect and admiration for the British police and the work they do, but that does not mean I have to think they're infallible: in this case it looks like they ****ed up. Big time.
But who knows?