Oh dear - more on the unarmed Brazilian shooting in London
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...738370,00.html
The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
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Originally Posted by ukemigrant
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...738370,00.html
The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
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Originally Posted by Eskimo
"It also emerged that one of the undercover team keeping Senhor de Menezes’s home under surveillance was relieving himself instead of filming the operation, so officers could not tell if they had tracked down one of the alleged bombers"
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The civilian, who was close to the action, said almost exactly this when he was interviewed on several networks, but you may remember an awful lot of people here got very nasty with anyone who questioned the police action.
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Originally Posted by paddingtongreen
The civilian, who was close to the action, said almost exactly this when he was interviewed on several networks, but you may remember an awful lot of people here got very nasty with anyone who questioned the police action.
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Who's gone quiet, all the people who thought those of us who *questioned* the shooting were bleeding heart liberals?
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
Who's gone quiet, all the people who thought those of us who *questioned* the shooting were bleeding heart liberals? ![Roll Eyes](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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yes very PC of us not wanting people to go around shooting others in the head for no apparent reason.
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Originally Posted by paddingtongreen
The civilian, who was close to the action, said almost exactly this when he was interviewed on several networks, but you may remember an awful lot of people here got very nasty with anyone who questioned the police action.
In which case some people might change their minds.
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Now lets show some photos of the bombed carraiges and the victims of the evil carried out that day.
The police acted rightly and should be praised for putting their lives at risk rather than condemned for having the wrong target.
The police acted rightly and should be praised for putting their lives at risk rather than condemned for having the wrong target.
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Mmm I never saw him interviewed. This is all new evidence.
The fact that the witness recollections varied so much was what made me wonder what happened and whether the shooting was justified.
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Originally Posted by ukemigrant
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...738370,00.html
The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
I read transcripts of the interview and saw brief snippets of the man interviewed on television. He was quite shaken.
The fact that the witness recollections varied so much was what made me wonder what happened and whether the shooting was justified.
The fact that the witness recollections varied so much was what made me wonder what happened and whether the shooting was justified.
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Ermmmm the guy on TV said he saw officers holding the guy down, *not* he was sitting in his seat.
I do realise that in traumatic situations witness recollections can differ due to the shock. But there were several accounts that were not clear. A woman said "some officers entered the carriage and shot a man." She didn't say anything about the man being chased.
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
The guy I saw said that he saw the officers throw the man to the floor -- but it was unclear whether or not he was thrown down from a standing or sitting position. He also said "the man next to me" and not "the man in front of me."
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