Newcomers Guide?
Jun 2nd 2007, 4:44 pm
#31
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
forums are great for individual question ...but to cover a whole subject its impossible... even 500 page books may omit something ...
Your from the UK I presume ... so if I have said to you ..I'm moving to the UK where should I live ... I may well get a hundred questions first..
You just have to refine your questions ...
Jun 2nd 2007, 6:10 pm
#32
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
Although forums are no substitute for official information, I think forums such as this should offer a simple list of things that new immigrants need to consider before/after they have arrived at their destination country (even if they have planned properly) and which previous migrants can help with.
There may be such a thing on this site, but I haven't found it.
There may be such a thing on this site, but I haven't found it.
Jun 2nd 2007, 6:57 pm
#33
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
One suggestion: if someone is about to post in one of the immigration forums for the first time, could you guys have a message flash up along the lines: "Please check the WIKI section before posting your query - you may find your answer there".
It's just a little frustrating that so many people post the most basic questions, clearly without having done any research whatsoever.
It's just a little frustrating that so many people post the most basic questions, clearly without having done any research whatsoever.
Jun 2nd 2007, 7:03 pm
#34
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
Although forums are no substitute for official information, I think forums such as this should offer a simple list of things that new immigrants need to consider before/after they have arrived at their destination country (even if they have planned properly) and which previous migrants can help with.
There may be such a thing on this site, but I haven't found it.
There may be such a thing on this site, but I haven't found it.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/M-618.pdf
Jun 3rd 2007, 12:09 am
#35
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
Harsh. Elvira does try to help people in the immigration forums.
Jun 3rd 2007, 12:43 am
#36
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
Believe it's called "The Lounge".
Jun 3rd 2007, 5:12 pm
#38
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
I think many people do help out, a lot, but it does get frustrating when someone can't even be bothered to do anything themselves, I'm not referring to the OP here, but in general, it's fair enough if someone said they googled for this and that, but didn't understand it, or asked where to go from there, at least they tried, it's just when some asks you to do all the work for them, it's annoying, especially when they at the very least could try and search this very forum for similar situations.
Jun 3rd 2007, 5:29 pm
#39
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
I think many people do help out, a lot, but it does get frustrating when someone can't even be bothered to do anything themselves, I'm not referring to the OP here, but in general, it's fair enough if someone said they googled for this and that, but didn't understand it, or asked where to go from there, at least they tried, it's just when some asks you to do all the work for them, it's annoying, especially when they at the very least could try and search this very forum for similar situations.
Just trying to be fair.
Jun 3rd 2007, 5:56 pm
#40
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
That attitude is so unfair. It doesn't apply to regular posters posting the same old topics week in, week out. Why not say to them "if you wan't a decent curry, English bacon, Cadburys creme egg or a can of Lucozade then use the search feature, don't be so lazy, it's just plain annoying." Or why not say "don't ask AGAIN, what I miss, don't miss, like dislike, about the US", or "why I cam here, how long I've been here, what brought me here". "Just use the bloody search feature!"
Just trying to be fair.
Just trying to be fair.
Jun 3rd 2007, 6:01 pm
#41
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
The "I'm a plumber from Britain-is-going-to-the-dogs and want to move to Florida" posts tend to surface more in the USA forum though...
Jun 3rd 2007, 8:42 pm
#42
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
That attitude is so unfair. It doesn't apply to regular posters posting the same old topics week in, week out. Why not say to them "if you wan't a decent curry, English bacon, Cadburys creme egg or a can of Lucozade then use the search feature, don't be so lazy, it's just plain annoying." Or why not say "don't ask AGAIN, what I miss, don't miss, like dislike, about the US", or "why I cam here, how long I've been here, what brought me here". "Just use the bloody search feature!"
Just trying to be fair.
Just trying to be fair.
Jun 3rd 2007, 9:28 pm
#43
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
Aye, topics come and go, but when your basing a life changing decision, shouldn't you at least be arsed to spend a few mins to try and google something for yourself rather than someone hold your hand every step of the way? It's fair enough asking for more guidance and clarification, but when some one asks a question that has been asked and answered numerous times on the same page and couldn't be even arsed to look them up, then it gets annoying...why should anyone bother help someone who couldn't be bothered to even at least try help themselves?
It's just disheartening to see people making assumptions about the capability of newbies based on the first stupid question that comes out of their mouth. As for being arsed to help themselves, I would consider the fact that they have managed to navigate themselves to this forum a good faith effort, clear evidence of them already having googled something for themselves, JMHO.
Jun 3rd 2007, 9:54 pm
#44
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
It's just disheartening to see people making assumptions about the capability of newbies based on the first stupid question that comes out of their mouth. As for being arsed to help themselves, I would consider the fact that they have managed to navigate themselves to this forum a good faith effort, clear evidence of them already having googled something for themselves, JMHO.
Anyway, your just nit picking on the handful of posts that are a bit snappy, there are pages of posts of very helpful information by various people....and don't forget, joining a forum, it's polite manners to at the very least read what the forum index says about the forums, and post appropriately and/or check the faq. People that say they have at least tried to do a forum search are going to get more receptive response from someone who posted the same question in multiple forums, completely ignoring a similar question being asked by someone else a few minutes before hand.
Jun 3rd 2007, 9:59 pm
#45
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Re: Newcomers Guide?
Googled for the first thing and stopped.
Anyway, your just nit picking on the handful of posts that are a bit snappy, there are pages of posts of very helpful information by various people....and don't forget, joining a forum, it's polite manners to at the very least read what the forum index says about the forums, and post appropriately and/or check the faq. People that say they have at least tried to do a forum search are going to get more receptive response from someone who posted the same question in multiple forums, completely ignoring a similar question being asked by someone else a few minutes before hand.
Anyway, your just nit picking on the handful of posts that are a bit snappy, there are pages of posts of very helpful information by various people....and don't forget, joining a forum, it's polite manners to at the very least read what the forum index says about the forums, and post appropriately and/or check the faq. People that say they have at least tried to do a forum search are going to get more receptive response from someone who posted the same question in multiple forums, completely ignoring a similar question being asked by someone else a few minutes before hand.
