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Old Mar 18th 2007, 11:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Deedee13
we already have it.

EVERY BLOODY TUESDAY AMERICAN IDOL.


SANJAJA OR WHAT EVER HE IS CALLED 10 points

the good ones ... GONE.
Yes - what's that all about?

There all equally awful...
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Originally Posted by gruffbrown
It's only taken 8 bloody pages to get to Females mud wrestling, this place just isn't the same.
PERVERT!!!!

i would trip over my boobs in a mud wrestling match that or my fat gut!!!

Now will u all please leave me alone i am going to look for a toy boy on the net!!!!

he needs to have a 6 pak, a working peepee man, all of his hair, and money in the bank.

where the hell did i go wrong. I got a 50year old, treats his guns like porno queens, has high blood pressure and receeding hair line. FFS ( i do love him to bits tho) lol.

Stacey ur going to be ok, i know u will probably have nightmares tonight of all the horror stories, but i am sure that there are some nicer ones out there. True love and all that. And tracy I am still GOBSMACKED!!!!
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On Mar 18, 5:31 pm, Tracym <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh I believed it. I just didn't have the imagination to think of how
> (thankfully). I am sorry you are still having to make accomodations
> because of this nutso. Hopefully he will soon give up and fade away.

I think you're confusing posters, since I didn't write of the original
stalking issue, I just responded because I have my own story to
contribute (and that was my only post on the subject).

As for me making accommodations, when I cancelled my phone number, he
had no means possible to call, and I was always unlisted anyway. He
did have my address which was of little use except for mail, but
fortunately I only got four letters after I changed my number. I guess
he wasn't a very prolific writer and wanted instantaneous results.He
didn't have email or a computer, so he didn't have my email address,
he probably still doesn't know how to use a computer, so I never
worried much on that front. I'm just thankfuly because 100 annoying
messages are just that, annoying. Not as annoying as phone calls, but
if he's computer literate and smart, the 100 annoying messages would
all be from different people (so it would appear). I'm only semi-
literate with killfiles and the like. I'm not even that literate on
usenet.

One of this guy's threats was, "I want you to be with me, and if you
don't come to see me, I'm going to drive to Canada and come and get
you." I could hardly take this seriously from a guy who had never left
the state he lives in, and his big move was going 300 miles away from
home, taking a job, becoming home sick after 6 weeks and moving home
with mommy because he couldn't bear to be so far away from her. So
since I knew his history and lack of adventure (never left the state,
and for him, all vacations are taken within the state, except maybe
Las Vegas and a few other near places), I didn't think he'd drive to
Canada. The guy barely understood what snow was, and this was during
winter. He'd get culture shock by the time he got to Colorado.

I asked for advice, and I was told if he did show up, I could call the
police. They wouldn't take too kindly to a visitor coming into Canada
for the purpose of stalking/threatening/harassing someone. And what's
he going to tell them when he gets to Ontario? He's going to see some
girl he loves that changed her phone number and won't talk to him, and
he wants to make sure she understands that she has to be with him
forever and ever, even if he has to go and get her and bring her back
to his house to stay there? Yeah, I don't think so. I'm sure some
people are that driven, but this guy didn't have the brains or the
bucks to pull that off. And I think the collect call thing was more to
get me upset and try and break me down than to get a response. He knew
I wouldn't take collect calls, unless he's really dumb or something.
so he knew by doing it over and over again (the phone wasn't even on
because I couldn't stand to listen to it ring all the time), he
wouldn't get results.

This is a guy that would call (before I told him to go away), and get
all whiny and "if you don't do this, you're not really my friend" kind
of grade school BS. Then he calls me after he knows I don't want to
talk to him (because dealing with this ameteur stuff is exhausting)
and says, "I don't want you to call me anymore, I don't want to be
your friend, you're not very nice." I said, "Okay fine, we're not
friends. Goodnight." *click* Within five minutes he calls back, "I'm
sorry, i'm sorry, I didn't mean it, I want to be your friend, you're a
nice person and all that, I'm just mad at you because I want you to
come live with me and you don't want to do that, please forgive me."
I'd say, "fine, your forgiven, I need to get some sleep, goodnight."
*click* I had to turn the phone off because he'd keep calling and
wanting to talk, and he'd talk at the machine until it cut him off,
etc, etc. After a week of this childish crap, I'm like, why am I
putting up with this? I need better friends.

The thing that gets me, is when I met him, and in the time I knew him
in person, his normal act was so good it had me fooled and I believed
he was a stable person. He didn't act all weird and stuff until after
I went home, and it took about a week or so of phone chats before he
got kind of abnormal. Next thing I know, he's busy telling me that I'm
the one, and trying to change things about me, and get me to admit
that he's number one to me, and how school is not that important and I
should quit and go and be with him (he was unemployed living with
mom). In the whole time I knew him, he was only employed for a few
weeks, so I wasn't going to go and live with someone who couldn't take
care of himself and hold down a job. I'm sick, and I need someone who
can take care of me, and I go to work and earn money because I can,
it's easier when it's the only thing I have to do because my spouse
takes care of all sorts of other things (like making sure there's a
suitable amount of food for my dietary needs in the house, and most
idiots I've dated don't even understand what my dietary needs are, all
they care about is finding the nearest McDonald's for themselves). So
suffice to say, I found myself a winner, and he didn't live 3000 miles
away.

S.
 
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[quote=Deedee13;4532294]
Now will u all please leave me alone i am going to look for a toy boy on the net!!!!

he needs to have a 6 pak, a working peepee man, all of his hair, and money in the bank. /quote]
There you go DeeDee. Afte rall it worked for me. Gloat. Gloat.
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Old Mar 19th 2007, 12:05 am
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:57:10 +0000, gruffbrown
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>> Sorry... pwetty please explain to dumb yank me?
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>I'd love to explain the intricacies of the Eurovision Song Contest
>scoring system Tracy, but it could take years. It's like a short history
>of Western Europe.

And you kind of have to see it to believe it.
 
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Originally Posted by Sapphyre
On Mar 18, 5:31 pm, Tracym <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh I believed it. I just didn't have the imagination to think of how
> (thankfully). I am sorry you are still having to make accomodations
> because of this nutso. Hopefully he will soon give up and fade away.

I think you're confusing posters, since I didn't write of the original
stalking issue, I just responded because I have my own story to
contribute (and that was my only post on the subject).

As for me making accommodations, when I cancelled my phone number, he
had no means possible to call, and I was always unlisted anyway. He
did have my address which was of little use except for mail, but
fortunately I only got four letters after I changed my number. I guess
he wasn't a very prolific writer and wanted instantaneous results.He
didn't have email or a computer, so he didn't have my email address,
he probably still doesn't know how to use a computer, so I never
worried much on that front. I'm just thankfuly because 100 annoying
messages are just that, annoying. Not as annoying as phone calls, but
if he's computer literate and smart, the 100 annoying messages would
all be from different people (so it would appear). I'm only semi-
literate with killfiles and the like. I'm not even that literate on
usenet.

One of this guy's threats was, "I want you to be with me, and if you
don't come to see me, I'm going to drive to Canada and come and get
you." I could hardly take this seriously from a guy who had never left
the state he lives in, and his big move was going 300 miles away from
home, taking a job, becoming home sick after 6 weeks and moving home
with mommy because he couldn't bear to be so far away from her. So
since I knew his history and lack of adventure (never left the state,
and for him, all vacations are taken within the state, except maybe
Las Vegas and a few other near places), I didn't think he'd drive to
Canada. The guy barely understood what snow was, and this was during
winter. He'd get culture shock by the time he got to Colorado.

I asked for advice, and I was told if he did show up, I could call the
police. They wouldn't take too kindly to a visitor coming into Canada
for the purpose of stalking/threatening/harassing someone. And what's
he going to tell them when he gets to Ontario? He's going to see some
girl he loves that changed her phone number and won't talk to him, and
he wants to make sure she understands that she has to be with him
forever and ever, even if he has to go and get her and bring her back
to his house to stay there? Yeah, I don't think so. I'm sure some
people are that driven, but this guy didn't have the brains or the
bucks to pull that off. And I think the collect call thing was more to
get me upset and try and break me down than to get a response. He knew
I wouldn't take collect calls, unless he's really dumb or something.
so he knew by doing it over and over again (the phone wasn't even on
because I couldn't stand to listen to it ring all the time), he
wouldn't get results.

This is a guy that would call (before I told him to go away), and get
all whiny and "if you don't do this, you're not really my friend" kind
of grade school BS. Then he calls me after he knows I don't want to
talk to him (because dealing with this ameteur stuff is exhausting)
and says, "I don't want you to call me anymore, I don't want to be
your friend, you're not very nice." I said, "Okay fine, we're not
friends. Goodnight." *click* Within five minutes he calls back, "I'm
sorry, i'm sorry, I didn't mean it, I want to be your friend, you're a
nice person and all that, I'm just mad at you because I want you to
come live with me and you don't want to do that, please forgive me."
I'd say, "fine, your forgiven, I need to get some sleep, goodnight."
*click* I had to turn the phone off because he'd keep calling and
wanting to talk, and he'd talk at the machine until it cut him off,
etc, etc. After a week of this childish crap, I'm like, why am I
putting up with this? I need better friends.

The thing that gets me, is when I met him, and in the time I knew him
in person, his normal act was so good it had me fooled and I believed
he was a stable person. He didn't act all weird and stuff until after
I went home, and it took about a week or so of phone chats before he
got kind of abnormal. Next thing I know, he's busy telling me that I'm
the one, and trying to change things about me, and get me to admit
that he's number one to me, and how school is not that important and I
should quit and go and be with him (he was unemployed living with
mom). In the whole time I knew him, he was only employed for a few
weeks, so I wasn't going to go and live with someone who couldn't take
care of himself and hold down a job. I'm sick, and I need someone who
can take care of me, and I go to work and earn money because I can,
it's easier when it's the only thing I have to do because my spouse
takes care of all sorts of other things (like making sure there's a
suitable amount of food for my dietary needs in the house, and most
idiots I've dated don't even understand what my dietary needs are, all
they care about is finding the nearest McDonald's for themselves). So
suffice to say, I found myself a winner, and he didn't live 3000 miles
away.

S.
Sorry, I did mean to reply to you - may have gotten a little confused, you mentioned 3000 miles. I thought you were keeping an unlisted number because of him. Anyway, no matter, I am certainly glad if you're not being bothered anymore. Stalkers in any form are certainly scary.
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On Mar 18, 7:22 pm, Tracym <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, I did mean to reply to you - may have gotten a little confused,
> you mentioned 3000 miles. I thought you were keeping an unlisted number
> because of him. Anyway, no matter, I am certainly glad if you're not
> being bothered anymore. Stalkers in any form are certainly scary.

Nah, I've always had an unlisted number, but I thought it was a good
idea because I met a weirdo when I was in highschool, and after I
moved, he was obsessed with trying to find out where I moved to (even
though he told people he didn't even like me...) So I got the idea at
age 16, that if I have an unlisted number, then people I don't want to
call up and talk to me won't be able to call. I still got
telemarketers, but they didn't know who they were calling, whereas if
your number is listed, they know the name it's listed under.

Also if you have an unlisted number, your address isn't published
either.

At this point, if I went listed, and that guy called, I'd just have
someone else who lives in the house tell him where to go. He won't
stand up to another man. Ironically, this guy has also had an unlisted
number in the time I've known him, times before that, and probably
ever since. Funny how the stalker type doesn't want to be stalked?

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The main issue is that with or without intent, the rule of remaining after marriage under the vwp to adjust status has been broken. It is not allowed, as per the terms of the vwp.

HOWEVER, since USCIS will forgive the breach of the regulations for marriage to a USC, the issue is mote and leaves the issue of intent as the main one to contend with and worry about.

Will you be one of the few who is ~caught~ when you interview? That is up to the district adjudicating officer and if asked for, your evidence to show that intent was not there.

Others have rightfully or wrongfully given you all you need to know about how to camouflage your intent so that you can lower the percentages on being found out.

So you now have your facts in place, so it is time to run with your decision.

Originally Posted by kissalicious1975
well, in all honesty, i don't even know...i mean, there have been some valid points on here. And it seems that the lines between intent and not intending are very skewed. So i'm really confused....if i thought to myself, hey, let's see how things go with he and i (seeing as that we've never physically met before and we met on the internet), and at this point i planned for a visit, but then he got here, and we really connected and got married, what happens then...did i actually break the rules or what? None of this really makes sense to me...i mean are they gonna have to shoot everyone up with truth serum or what? Does anyone really know 100% of their intentions, especially in this instance...it's making my head spin...

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Originally Posted by Rete
The main issue is that with or without intent, the rule of remaining after marriage under the vwp to adjust status has been broken. It is not allowed, as per the terms of the vwp.

HOWEVER, since USCIS will forgive the breach of the regulations for marriage to a USC, the issue is mote and leaves the issue of intent as the main one to contend with and worry about.

Will you be one of the few who is ~caught~ when you interview? That is up to the district adjudicating officer and if asked for, your evidence to show that intent was not there.

Others have rightfully or wrongfully given you all you need to know about how to camouflage your intent so that you can lower the percentages on being found out.

So you now have your facts in place, so it is time to run with your decision.
Well, thank you very much for your advice...we still have 3 weeks to figure out what to do, and i've been given a lot of useful information, i think...i hope to do it the right way, i want to...i don't want to take the chance on us being apart forever...i couldn't bear that!
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Originally Posted by kissalicious1975
a smug attitude does suit you well....but thanks for your OPINION

You came to the forum for advice and in the process of asking spilled your secrets to, not only the world readers, but to the USCIS who has taken to listening in on forums such as these. Proof of this was brought to light a year or so ago by one of the in-forum attorneys who apparently has taken a sabbatical from forum life. If you think that you are untraceable, think again. Big Brother can find you and your adjudicating officer might well have this thread ready for your interview. Bearing that in mind, one has to stop being naive about posting on newsgroups.

As for your attitude, you're the one who has the smug and condescending attitude. Meauxne is correct, it only took you 28 hours to see that you are venturing into an area that is not black and white but varying shades of gray and that those gray areas can be just as difficult to navigate through as the black areas.

Not everyone has to share a joke with you about boy toys, etc. Some people here take this issue and the issue of assisting through our experience very seriously.
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Originally Posted by kissalicious1975
i hope to do it the right way, i want to...i don't want to take the chance on us being apart forever...i couldn't bear that!
Why do you "hope to do it the right way"? There is only one way to do this... the legal way. Even if you're one of the lucky ones who gets past USCIS' radar, you will spend the rest of your natural life (or, seeing as you're in Kentucky... your unnatural life) waiting for the knock on the door. It will come! If you don't want to take the chance on "being apart forever" from a person you've never even met, then take things one step at a time. Don't plan now for events that may never occur. He may take one look at you and run for the hills - shoes and a full set of teeth are not really the basis for a good marriage.

As an aside, shoes and a full set of teeth are quite often the basis for a good marriage here in Appalachia... but then, anyone with a job at McD's is a good catch in this neck of the woods.

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Originally Posted by Rete
You came to the forum for advice and in the process of asking spilled your secrets to, not only the world readers, but to the USCIS who has taken to listening in on forums such as these. Proof of this was brought to light a year or so ago by one of the in-forum attorneys who apparently has taken a sabbatical from forum life. If you think that you are untraceable, think again. Big Brother can find you and your adjudicating officer might well have this thread ready for your interview. Bearing that in mind, one has to stop being naive about posting on newsgroups.

As for your attitude, you're the one who has the smug and condescending attitude. Meauxne is correct, it only took you 28 hours to see that you are venturing into an area that is not black and white but varying shades of gray and that those gray areas can be just as difficult to navigate through as the black areas.

Not everyone has to share a joke with you about boy toys, etc. Some people here take this issue and the issue of assisting through our experience very seriously.
Well said Rete...as I said previously it never ceases to amaze me what information some will disclose.
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Originally Posted by Rete
You came to the forum for advice and in the process of asking spilled your secrets to, not only the world readers, but to the USCIS who has taken to listening in on forums such as these. Proof of this was brought to light a year or so ago by one of the in-forum attorneys who apparently has taken a sabbatical from forum life. If you think that you are untraceable, think again. Big Brother can find you and your adjudicating officer might well have this thread ready for your interview. Bearing that in mind, one has to stop being naive about posting on newsgroups.

As for your attitude, you're the one who has the smug and condescending attitude. Meauxne is correct, it only took you 28 hours to see that you are venturing into an area that is not black and white but varying shades of gray and that those gray areas can be just as difficult to navigate through as the black areas.

Not everyone has to share a joke with you about boy toys, etc. Some people here take this issue and the issue of assisting through our experience very seriously.
Well Rete I hope you don't think that because some joking took place also, the immigration issues weren't taken seriously - at least by me if that was who you were referring to. I believe my posts to the OP included some pretty serious information - but I saw no harm in being friendly also - the more flies with honey than vinegar thing. If you weren't talking to me, np.
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See what info you give out on the net ... and leave behind

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Well Rete I hope you don't think that because some joking took place also, the immigration issues weren't taken seriously - at least by me if that was who you were referring to. I believe my posts to the OP included some pretty serious information - but I saw no harm in being friendly also - the more flies with honey than vinegar thing. If you weren't talking to me, np.
What many don't seem to be able to grasp is that all major companies and government agencies monitor forums such as this. No they don't have someone sat in a room reading every post...they use sophisticated software that monitors every post on forums and alerts them when key words are used. They will then investigate said post and said poster if they want to take the matter further.
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