Illegal Brits...?
Jul 29th 2004, 2:12 pm
#16
dealing with it
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Originally posted by manc1976
We don't advocate posters of any illegal operations with regards the INS.
Most of us have spent upwards of thousands of dollars to be here. We're not interested in your story.
do you still shit yourself everytime there's a knock at the door btw?
We don't advocate posters of any illegal operations with regards the INS.
Most of us have spent upwards of thousands of dollars to be here. We're not interested in your story.
do you still shit yourself everytime there's a knock at the door btw?
Manc speaks the truth
Jul 29th 2004, 4:56 pm
#17
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Originally posted by Oggie Oi!
Plus, it is not at all wise. ICE occassionally monitors this forum.
Hello Agent K.
Plus, it is not at all wise. ICE occassionally monitors this forum.
Hello Agent K.
what/who is ice?
Jul 29th 2004, 5:44 pm
#18
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Originally posted by BritGuyTN
what/who is ice?
what/who is ice?
It is foolish to post anything about illegal entry because they can track you by the IP address. ICE takes notice of Brits because of the large number of Muslims who hold UK passports.
It is also not advisable to send e-mails or make phone calls to the UK from the US that contain any revealing information. The NSA can monitor these communicaitons without a warrent. I am not sure where the host of this site is located, but if it is at all routed through another country (i.e. Canada), your PMs on this forum can be read as well.
I know - it sounds like scary Big Brother stuff, but it really does not affect 95% of the people on this forum.
Jul 29th 2004, 6:07 pm
#19
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Originally posted by dbj1000
...kind of like the Customs officer in England back when I was a student who, after turning all my bags inside out and finding nothing of any interest, gave a theatrical nervous glance around, leaned very close and, in his best conspiratorial whisper said "...but you do... you know... do drugs, don't you? You know... any kind of drugs...".
To which, according to his training manual, I guess I was supposed to reply "Why yes, officer! Now you come to mention it, I am a habitual drug user, but I'm afraid today you've just failed to find my 500kg of smack that I hid inside a toothpaste tube! I'm terribly sorry to have let you waste all that time dumping my dirty laundry on the inspection room floor and threatening me with a body cavity search. It won't happen again. Now, I'll put my hands out, and you cuff 'em".
...kind of like the Customs officer in England back when I was a student who, after turning all my bags inside out and finding nothing of any interest, gave a theatrical nervous glance around, leaned very close and, in his best conspiratorial whisper said "...but you do... you know... do drugs, don't you? You know... any kind of drugs...".
To which, according to his training manual, I guess I was supposed to reply "Why yes, officer! Now you come to mention it, I am a habitual drug user, but I'm afraid today you've just failed to find my 500kg of smack that I hid inside a toothpaste tube! I'm terribly sorry to have let you waste all that time dumping my dirty laundry on the inspection room floor and threatening me with a body cavity search. It won't happen again. Now, I'll put my hands out, and you cuff 'em".
Oh brother, that so made my day!!!!!! Sometimes I always get a good laugh when I read these posts. Thanks, its bloody hot here and I'm melting. At least reading this took my mind off of the heat.
Jul 29th 2004, 6:21 pm
#20
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Originally posted by Oggie Oi!
ICE is Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They gather intelligence for DHS, as well as investigate, detain, and deport immigration violators. They have a frightening amount of power because they also work under the guise of counter-terrorism.
It is foolish to post anything about illegal entry because they can track you by the IP address. ICE takes notice of Brits because of the large number of Muslims who hold UK passports.
It is also not advisable to send e-mails or make phone calls to the UK from the US that contain any revealing information. The NSA can monitor these communicaitons without a warrent. I am not sure where the host of this site is located, but if it is at all routed through another country (i.e. Canada), your PMs on this forum can be read as well.
I know - it sounds like scary Big Brother stuff, but it really does not affect 95% of the people on this forum.
ICE is Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They gather intelligence for DHS, as well as investigate, detain, and deport immigration violators. They have a frightening amount of power because they also work under the guise of counter-terrorism.
It is foolish to post anything about illegal entry because they can track you by the IP address. ICE takes notice of Brits because of the large number of Muslims who hold UK passports.
It is also not advisable to send e-mails or make phone calls to the UK from the US that contain any revealing information. The NSA can monitor these communicaitons without a warrent. I am not sure where the host of this site is located, but if it is at all routed through another country (i.e. Canada), your PMs on this forum can be read as well.
I know - it sounds like scary Big Brother stuff, but it really does not affect 95% of the people on this forum.
Ash
Jul 29th 2004, 6:48 pm
#21
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Originally posted by Ash UK/US
Menwith or Menworth Hill in north yorkshire is where they do it too... it is (or was) the worlds largest spy base and it belongs to the US.
Ash
Menwith or Menworth Hill in north yorkshire is where they do it too... it is (or was) the worlds largest spy base and it belongs to the US.
Ash
ICE now has 20,000 agents running about, and those buggers are absolutely obssessed with deporting non-citizens. The people who get really screwed are the Palestinians because Israel will not take them back, so they have to stay in jail.
Jul 29th 2004, 6:51 pm
#22
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Originally posted by Oggie Oi!
True. The NSA and the activities at Menwith are actually bit more shadowy than ICE, but all the organizations do a lot more information sharing these days, particularly when it comes to foreign nationals entering and exiting the US.
ICE now has 20,000 agents running about, and those buggers are absolutely obssessed with deporting non-citizens. The people who get really screwed are the Palestinians because Israel will not take them back, so they have to stay in jail.
True. The NSA and the activities at Menwith are actually bit more shadowy than ICE, but all the organizations do a lot more information sharing these days, particularly when it comes to foreign nationals entering and exiting the US.
ICE now has 20,000 agents running about, and those buggers are absolutely obssessed with deporting non-citizens. The people who get really screwed are the Palestinians because Israel will not take them back, so they have to stay in jail.
How do you know all this? Just a thought but normal people are not usually aware of stuff like this? Are you James Bond?
Jul 29th 2004, 7:19 pm
#23
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Originally posted by mattbutt
How do you know all this? Just a thought but normal people are not usually aware of stuff like this? Are you James Bond?
How do you know all this? Just a thought but normal people are not usually aware of stuff like this? Are you James Bond?
Nope, I simply consult members of Congress on immigration policy, so I deal with this stuff everyday.
Incidently - if immigration is a the dominant issue of anyone who can vote in the US, you must choose Bush over Kerry. I know, I know - it seems barmey at first, but only a Republican can bring reform to the immigration system.
Jul 29th 2004, 8:48 pm
#24
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Originally posted by Oggie Oi!
The NSA and the activities at Menwith are actually bit more shadowy
The NSA and the activities at Menwith are actually bit more shadowy
Jul 29th 2004, 8:58 pm
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Originally posted by owen
I was told by a government IT guy that you can test this by sending two email to yourself in quick succession. one containing hello and one containing a certain president or prime minister and mentioning things that go bang. There is supposed to be a delivery delay on the latter as it does the rounds thru various agencies. Haven't tested the theory!!!
I was told by a government IT guy that you can test this by sending two email to yourself in quick succession. one containing hello and one containing a certain president or prime minister and mentioning things that go bang. There is supposed to be a delivery delay on the latter as it does the rounds thru various agencies. Haven't tested the theory!!!
Jul 29th 2004, 9:22 pm
#26
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Originally posted by owen
I was told by a government IT guy that you can test this by sending two email to yourself in quick succession. one containing hello and one containing a certain president or prime minister and mentioning things that go bang. There is supposed to be a delivery delay on the latter as it does the rounds thru various agencies. Haven't tested the theory!!!
I was told by a government IT guy that you can test this by sending two email to yourself in quick succession. one containing hello and one containing a certain president or prime minister and mentioning things that go bang. There is supposed to be a delivery delay on the latter as it does the rounds thru various agencies. Haven't tested the theory!!!
Jul 29th 2004, 10:30 pm
#27
dealing with it
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Originally posted by Oggie Oi!
seems barmey at first, but only a Republican can bring reform to the immigration system.
seems barmey at first, but only a Republican can bring reform to the immigration system.
Bush is surely far too busy being a war president to get involved in poxy immigration.
CC
Jul 29th 2004, 10:42 pm
#28
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Originally posted by Ash UK/US
Menwith or Menworth Hill in north yorkshire is where they do it too... it is (or was) the worlds largest spy base and it belongs to the US.
Ash
Menwith or Menworth Hill in north yorkshire is where they do it too... it is (or was) the worlds largest spy base and it belongs to the US.
Ash
Jul 29th 2004, 10:53 pm
#29
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Originally posted by owen
I was told by a government IT guy that you can test this by sending two email to yourself in quick succession. one containing hello and one containing a certain president or prime minister and mentioning things that go bang. There is supposed to be a delivery delay on the latter as it does the rounds thru various agencies. Haven't tested the theory!!!
I was told by a government IT guy that you can test this by sending two email to yourself in quick succession. one containing hello and one containing a certain president or prime minister and mentioning things that go bang. There is supposed to be a delivery delay on the latter as it does the rounds thru various agencies. Haven't tested the theory!!!
supposedly shelved ..
Jul 29th 2004, 11:10 pm
#30
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Any one remember the Mark Thomas comedy product? One episode was about Menwith Hill and how he found out that it wasn't a no fly zone over it. So he hired a hot air balloon and flew over the top taking pictures and video. I think he even arranged balloon tours over it later on!