Guns?
Jun 9th 2005 | 4:31 pm
#256
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Re: Guns?
If you look at it from a crime perspective rather than an epidemiological perspective, how many people die by getting intentionally mowed down by a car vs intentionally shot?
If you look at it as a benefits/risk perspective, the benefits of having people driving are pretty huge. Harder to calculate the benefits of gun ownership. In the ultimate case, you save your life and that of others by having a gun. However, an ambulance can do the same thing by getting you to hospital quicker than if you had to walk.
Personally, I think the most pressing matter is locking up white collar crooks who steal billions of dollars from everyone. Lock 'em up with the gangbangers.
If you look at it as a benefits/risk perspective, the benefits of having people driving are pretty huge. Harder to calculate the benefits of gun ownership. In the ultimate case, you save your life and that of others by having a gun. However, an ambulance can do the same thing by getting you to hospital quicker than if you had to walk.
Personally, I think the most pressing matter is locking up white collar crooks who steal billions of dollars from everyone. Lock 'em up with the gangbangers.
Jun 9th 2005 | 4:39 pm
#257
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Personally, I think the most pressing matter is locking up white collar crooks who steal billions of dollars from everyone. Lock 'em up with the gangbangers.
Jun 9th 2005 | 4:48 pm
#258
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by Bob
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Everyone best stock up on liquorice allsorts and Jelly Babies, the Trebor Bassett plant in Leicestershire went mostly up in flame today.
Jun 10th 2005 | 12:20 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
And Brits and guns go together like, er, two things that dont mix very well.
To make a generalisation, Brits and Americans tend to have quite different ideas, expectations and associations regarding having an armed society. One of those famous cultural differences.
Jun 10th 2005 | 1:25 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
If you look at it from a crime perspective rather than an epidemiological perspective, how many people die by getting intentionally mowed down by a car vs intentionally shot?
If you look at it as a benefits/risk perspective, the benefits of having people driving are pretty huge. Harder to calculate the benefits of gun ownership. In the ultimate case, you save your life and that of others by having a gun. However, an ambulance can do the same thing by getting you to hospital quicker than if you had to walk.
Personally, I think the most pressing matter is locking up white collar crooks who steal billions of dollars from everyone. Lock 'em up with the gangbangers.
If you look at it as a benefits/risk perspective, the benefits of having people driving are pretty huge. Harder to calculate the benefits of gun ownership. In the ultimate case, you save your life and that of others by having a gun. However, an ambulance can do the same thing by getting you to hospital quicker than if you had to walk.
Personally, I think the most pressing matter is locking up white collar crooks who steal billions of dollars from everyone. Lock 'em up with the gangbangers.
I used to edge on the side of gun owners but after reading and participating on this thread, I'm edging the other way. It seems to me that most people lack the intelligence and logical thought process required to use a gun successfully when necessary.
Out of the people here, I think only Ray shows the maturity and thoughtfulness required to carry a gun in public, I would feel 100% comfortable with people like that.
A firearm is not a penis extension.
EDIT: although I don't know about NC Penguin's 'carry' situation
Last edited by anotherlimey; Jun 10th 2005 at 1:38 am.
Jun 10th 2005 | 1:29 am
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Re: Guns?
A voice came to me from afar - somewhere down in Florida from a man in reclusion - it said "Yall woosers."
Must be some sort of code.
Must be some sort of code.
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:20 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
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I used to edge on the side of gun owners but after reading and participating on this thread, I'm edging the other way. It seems to me that most people lack the intelligence and logical thought process required to use a gun successfully when necessary.
Out of the people here, I think only Ray shows the maturity and thoughtfulness required to carry a gun in public, I would feel 100% comfortable with people like that.
A firearm is not a penis extension.
EDIT: although I don't know about NC Penguin's 'carry' situation
I used to edge on the side of gun owners but after reading and participating on this thread, I'm edging the other way. It seems to me that most people lack the intelligence and logical thought process required to use a gun successfully when necessary.
Out of the people here, I think only Ray shows the maturity and thoughtfulness required to carry a gun in public, I would feel 100% comfortable with people like that.
A firearm is not a penis extension.
EDIT: although I don't know about NC Penguin's 'carry' situation
So that would be one of those thinly veiled attacks you were on about would it? Name no names, quote no quotes etc?
I gather you are some kind of psychiatrist are you?
Last edited by ImHere; Jun 10th 2005 at 2:23 am.
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:23 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
So that would be one of those thinly veiled attacks you were on about would it? Name no names, quote no quotes etc?
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:24 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Wouldn't possibly be.
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:25 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
If you say so. After all you are the one that knows how everyone thinks.
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:25 am
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Re: Guns?
When I lived in TX I got the shock of my life. To TXans having 1 gun is timid having 50 is good, 200 great master! They are certainly not shy to use them.
I got to see how TX pride themselves on having guns, just another thing in america to get used to!
I got to see how TX pride themselves on having guns, just another thing in america to get used to!
Originally Posted by ScyLarc
A friends neighbour (who's a cop) recently put the fear of god into them by telling lots of horrific story's of the awful things he sees when he's on his rounds. He has told them everyone should have a gun and they are crazy if they don't. It's got them convinced and they are going to take trips to his shooting range to test some out. I think owning a gun is madness, the sheer idea of having one in the house terrifies me. I don't buy the protection argument, if someone creeps into your house you aren't going to have time to get your gun and shoot them. I think you are far more likely to either be shot with it yourself or accidentally shoot a member of your own family.
I knew before i moved here that lots of Americans are very comfortable owning guns or rifles but i have been surprised at my severity of my reaction to the mere thought of owning a gun. I'm sure i need to stop thinking of them in UK terms, (it never crossed my mind that any of my UK neighbours may have owned a fire arm) and I do wonder if i should just get used to the fact that a large number of people do have weapons.
I guess it got me wondering how many of us ex-pats have become used the the level of gun ownership here and if so have you got any tips how i can become less worried by the fact that my neighbours are probably sleeping with a loaded gun in their bedside cabinets!
I knew before i moved here that lots of Americans are very comfortable owning guns or rifles but i have been surprised at my severity of my reaction to the mere thought of owning a gun. I'm sure i need to stop thinking of them in UK terms, (it never crossed my mind that any of my UK neighbours may have owned a fire arm) and I do wonder if i should just get used to the fact that a large number of people do have weapons.
I guess it got me wondering how many of us ex-pats have become used the the level of gun ownership here and if so have you got any tips how i can become less worried by the fact that my neighbours are probably sleeping with a loaded gun in their bedside cabinets!
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:28 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Obviously....
Out of interest, what is it you do over here again?
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:30 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
Out of interest, what is it you do over here again?
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:31 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Lots of things.... shall I give you a run down of my day? I start with the gym.....
Jun 10th 2005 | 2:33 am
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Re: Guns?
Originally Posted by ImHere
Although it would make riviting reading Im sure for now can you limit it to a kind of synopsis of your main occupation. Im just interested.
