Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas

No easy answer is there. Turn a blind eye and they will carry on murdering people. Incarcerate them and they will carry on with business while being a burden to society. Execute them and we join the ranks of those that take life and contribute to the net violence.

Originally Posted by CarlM

Was it 'Not the Nine O'Clock news' that came up the solution to criminals thus: "Off with their Goolies!"

Originally Posted by BigDavyG

Nonsense.
The problem with wishy-washy liberal thinking is that it doesn't take into account that there are fundamentally bad people in this world who don't care about being fair or kind to others, so why should we show fairness or kindness to them - no amount of appeasement will ever change them - it will just encourage them to take more and more from the rest of society.
Its a shame that people with views such as yourself end up damaging the cause of people in this world who really need help by lumping them in with second rate human beings who deserve all the punishment that they are getting and then some.
Don't forget to pay your Amnesty International subs next year fb

Originally Posted by fatbrit

As I said, the debate tells us far more about the people who advocate for the death penalty than it ever does about the murderer or the victims!

Originally Posted by BigDavyG

Nonsense.
The problem with wishy-washy liberal thinking is that it doesn't take into account that there are fundamentally bad people in this world who don't care about being fair or kind to others, so why should we show fairness or kindness to them - no amount of appeasement will ever change them - it will just encourage them to take more and more from the rest of society.
Its a shame that people with views such as yourself end up damaging the cause of people in this world who really need help by lumping them in with second rate human beings who deserve all the punishment that they are getting and then some.
Don't forget to pay your Amnesty International subs next year fb

Originally Posted by BigDavyG

Indeed it does - the advocates are alive, the other 2 groups by definition end up dead

Originally Posted by fatbrit

No, it tells us about their fears.

Originally Posted by CarlM

Jeez!! Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!!

Originally Posted by BigDavyG

I like to think of myself as harsh, but fair

Originally Posted by BigDavyG

In what way ??
Tell me about my fears please Mr FB

Originally Posted by fatbrit

Why?
You have already amply demonstrated them in this thread.
And I can't really see I will be of any help to you, either.

Originally Posted by BigDavyG

Is it possible for a person to have and demonstrate a fear that they themselves are not aware off ??
If the answer is yes I would appreciate it if you could please explain/justify your answer for my benefit.

On the other hand you could just drop the tired old trick of trying to win a debate by implying that your opponent is in some way slightly "impaired" in their judgement as the result of a personal flaw.

Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by fatbrit

There's enough material for a conference here.

Originally Posted by BigDavyG

Thanks for proving my point

Originally Posted by CarlM

Was it 'Not the Nine O'Clock news' that came up the solution to criminals thus: "Off with their Goolies!"