execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Dec 14th 2005, 2:37 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by Wintersong
But surely if they're innocent then they haven't murdered any innocents...
Dec 14th 2005, 2:39 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
They dont matter. We just have to think about the poor misunderstood legally challenged (musnt call them criminals). They didnt mean to do it...society made them do it. They are good boys and girls really. If only they had the chance....
Yeah right. Funny how theres millions of impoverished kids brought up in lower class familes every year who dont turn out to be murderers and rapists. Bastards like Tookie will never be normal productive humans no matter how much they get or how many opportunites they are givent they will always turn to crime and murder.
Yeah right. Funny how theres millions of impoverished kids brought up in lower class familes every year who dont turn out to be murderers and rapists. Bastards like Tookie will never be normal productive humans no matter how much they get or how many opportunites they are givent they will always turn to crime and murder.
Dec 14th 2005, 2:42 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by Thydney
But they both take a life. My devils question is how can either recocile this with their conscience?
They see it as a life. I, personally, do not. A fetus before the end of the first trimester is not a life. It cannot live and function on its own. It is but tissue matter AFAIAC and I have the right to decide what tissue from my body can be removed.
As for murder, if I caught the person who raped my daughter I would have killed him gladly and served whatever sentence, even death, that the jury pronounced. Crimes against humanity and the criminals that commit them should not be treated with any special accordance. I would prefer to see the money spent for their housing, clothing, medical care, and food spent on the veterans who served their country proudly and on the senior citizens without means to obtain their medical prescriptions and the homeless that lost everything because they were out of work for the three pay periods that they were able to stash away.
Rehabilitation for criminals? Criminals do not want rehabilitation. They want freedom to roam the streets again and take what is not theirs because they feel they should have what you worked hard for. Murders like "Tookie" do not place a value on human life so why should we place a value on his.
Dec 14th 2005, 2:43 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Are you suggesting Tookie may have been innocent?
Dec 14th 2005, 2:48 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by Rete
But what of all the innocents they have murdered. What of the family Tookie called and that innocent convenience store clerk? Their only guilt was being in the wrong place or having something that he wanted.
Dec 14th 2005, 2:50 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by mdyoung
Tookie was a dirt bag and he got what he deserved. Shame that so much money and time was wasted dragging it out.
Dec 14th 2005, 2:54 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
What should have happened? An afternoon in court then out to the gallows out back?
Dec 14th 2005, 3:15 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by Rete
I would prefer to see the money spent for their housing, clothing, medical care, and food spent on the veterans who served their country proudly and on the senior citizens without means to obtain their medical prescriptions and the homeless that lost everything because they were out of work for the three pay periods that they were able to stash away.
Because of the complete lunacy of funding a war no one wants? Because of blatant favouritism shown in paying and overpaying businesses awarded federal contracts?
Dec 14th 2005, 3:17 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Why can't we, the richest nation on earth, feed/clothe both prisoners AND vets/seniors/the homeless?
Because of the complete lunacy of funding a war no one wants? Because of blatant favouritism shown in paying and overpaying businesses awarded federal contracts?
Because of the complete lunacy of funding a war no one wants? Because of blatant favouritism shown in paying and overpaying businesses awarded federal contracts?
Dec 14th 2005, 3:23 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Please don't mention Ha**iburton, I was just chilling
Dec 14th 2005, 3:26 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by snowbunny
I was thinking of Wackenslut, personally.
Dec 14th 2005, 3:30 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Dec 14th 2005, 3:41 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Dec 14th 2005, 3:58 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
Another good reason why you're not in charge.
And in charge of what? And as opposed to whom? Because as far as I can see the people in charge (of whatever) seem just as clueless as you and me about what is right and wrong.
Dec 14th 2005, 4:22 am
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Re: execution of Stanley 'Tookie' Williams..
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Aaaah, I remember, they guard the Liberty bell and Independence Hall in Philly, thought I'd sort of heard the name, last year it was another company, I'm sure.