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Old Feb 13th 2026 | 9:55 pm
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Default Re: ETA - Dual citizens must have valid UK passport

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Can I be really obtuse or some other label and point out an alternate view on this statement.

Now most people would assume or hold the view that if you were born in the UK then you are a UK citizen. Not an unreasonable thought HOWEVER

You’re usually a British citizen automatically if you were born in the UK. If born in the UK before 1 January 1983 see below

There are 3 exceptions. You will not be a British citizen if:

your father was a diplomat working for a foreign country

your mother was a diplomat working for a foreign country and you were born on or after 10 April 1968

your father was an ‘enemy alien in occupation’ in the Channel Islands during World War 2

https://www.gov.uk/check-british-cit...1-january-1983

Now if born between 1 January 1983 and 1 October 2000 then consult the below link to see if automatically a UK citizen.

https://www.gov.uk/check-british-cit...1-october-2000

Facts matter not opinions or assumptions.

So a passport can show you born in England but not actually a dual citizen.
Exactly. Only if your passport shows you born in England would border control even ask if you are a dual citizen, but if you have never held a British passport they would probably just wave you through. Boris Johnson got caught out that time in 2006 travelling to the USA because his British Passport showed that he was born in the USA (New York City) so he was automatically a US citizen.
 
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Originally Posted by durham_lad
Exactly. Only if your passport shows you born in England would border control even ask if you are a dual citizen, but if you have never held a British passport they would probably just wave you through. Boris Johnson got caught out that time in 2006 travelling to the USA because his British Passport showed that he was born in the USA (New York City) so he was automatically a US citizen.
My last UK passport expired in the early 90’s and I have never renewed it. My current Canadian passport shows Place of Birth Chorley GBR.

Now of course I could apply for an eTA and just put Canadian Citizen on the online application and not mention dual citizenship. Would the UK authorities who check the application know that I had been previously issued with a UK passport?

Of course this would be considered as misrepresentation by omitting details on an application and is an offence. Even if issued with the eTA and just travelling on the Canadian passport I can use the E Gates so I never see an officer. I wonder if the machine would actually pick up my Place of Birth and then Computer says NO. I then see an officer show him other proof of UK citizenship in my possession what are they going to do give me a bollocking or refuse me entry or charge me with an offence?

I expect the reply to the above will be (not you per se) is FL stop being a PITA and just apply for a UK passport blah blah rather than focusing on am I making valid points about this new rule.
 
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Default Re: ETA - Dual citizens must have valid UK passport

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
My last UK passport expired in the early 90’s and I have never renewed it. My current Canadian passport shows Place of Birth Chorley GBR.

Now of course I could apply for an eTA and just put Canadian Citizen on the online application and not mention dual citizenship. Would the UK authorities who check the application know that I had been previously issued with a UK passport?

Of course this would be considered as misrepresentation by omitting details on an application and is an offence. Even if issued with the eTA and just travelling on the Canadian passport I can use the E Gates so I never see an officer. I wonder if the machine would actually pick up my Place of Birth and then Computer says NO. I then see an officer show him other proof of UK citizenship in my possession what are they going to do give me a bollocking or refuse me entry or charge me with an offence?

I expect the reply to the above will be (not you per se) is FL stop being a PITA and just apply for a UK passport blah blah rather than focusing on am I making valid points about this new rule.
Why don’t you take one for the site and try going the ETA route then report back and let us know how you got on 😀
 
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Default Re: ETA - Dual citizens must have valid UK passport

Originally Posted by durham_lad
I think that if you have never held a British passport then there will be no problem. My US passport states place of birth as “England” so even if border control’s records don’t show me as being a dual citizen then the birthplace is a bit of a giveaway.
Thank you, I didn't know passports has your place of birth. Yes I'm an idiot
 
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Originally Posted by durham_lad
Why don’t you take one for the site and try going the ETA route then report back and let us know how you got on 😀
I have no immediate plans to visit the UK and I will see what happens after this new policy NOT legislation comes into effect.

Now being the PITA that I am I will now direct you to these 2 x documents that state the following

There isn’t a specific legal requirement for British citizens to travel on a British passport but in practice pre-departure checks for UK-bound travellers make it difficult to travel to the UK without one.

All British citizens have the right of abode in the UK (meaning, the entitlement to live or work in the UK without any immigration restrictions). This makes them exempt from immigration control. They don’t need an immigration officer’s permission to enter the UK, but they must be able to demonstrate that they have the right of abode.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...ngs/cbp-10344/

The above document has more info about this.

Then there is this

12. A person claiming to be a British citizen must prove that he has the right of abode in the United Kingdom by producing either:

(i) a United Kingdom passport describing him as a British citizen or as a citizen of the United

Kingdom and Colonies having the right of abode in the United Kingdom; or

(ii) a certificate of entitlement duly issued by or on behalf of the Government of the United Kingdom certifying that he has the right of abode.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigrat...stay-in-the-uk

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/77/section/3

As I have no wish to reside or work in the UK and merely just visit then why do I need a UK passport.
 
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If for whatever reason you really don't want to get a British Passport - just break your flight in Ireland.
 
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This is a recent BBC article about the changes https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2d9yk2kpjo

This sounds similar to the US where citizens must depart and enter using their US passport. I'm not sure if the consequences of you don't.

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Not quite true as I can leave Canada on any valid passport providing I have any relevant visa/eTA that the airline check in agents require. I can then return and fly into the USA on that same passport with an ESTA. I can then rent a car and then drive across the US/Canada border or be picked up by another and then present that passport and other proof of Canadian citizenship at the Canadian side and as long as I satisfy the examining officer that I am still a Canadian then they CANNOT refuse me entry. Sure they can give me a hard time for not having a Canadian passport. The rule is only for flying directly into Canada and I have just shown you how it can be done if not flying.Dual Canadian citizens can no longer travel to or transit through Canada by air with a non-Canadian passport. You need a valid Canadian passport to board your flight.

If your country needs you to enter and exit that country using a passport issued by its government, you will still need a valid Canadian passport to board your flight to Canada.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...it-canada.html
With the birth right legislation changes this could prove interesting for some people.
 
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Default Re: ETA - Dual citizens must have valid UK passport

Originally Posted by mrken30
This is a recent BBC article about the changes https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2d9yk2kpjo

This sounds similar to the US where citizens must depart and enter using their US passport. I'm not sure if the consequences of you don't.
Fines would be the consequence I think if you actually make it to UK border control and can prove citizenship - they can’t deny entry to a citizen but they can make it very difficult and expensive. The big hurdle of course would be getting onto a plane as a dual citizen without a British passport because the airlines face big fines if they don’t follow the rules.
 
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Originally Posted by durham_lad
Fines would be the consequence I think if you actually make it to UK border control and can prove citizenship - they can’t deny entry to a citizen but they can make it very difficult and expensive. The big hurdle of course would be getting onto a plane as a dual citizen without a British passport because the airlines face big fines if they don’t follow the rules.
I assume you could be detained, maybe using the anti terrorist legislation. That would not be a good start to a holiday.
you could always give up your citizenship
https://www.gov.uk/renounce-british-nationality

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What some people are overlooking is if you are a dual citizen and living outside the UK but you MUST get a UK passport to return to the UK for a visit you will NOT be treated as a resident of the UK so NOT covered under the NHS and I suspect there will be other things you WONT be able to do as you are NOT residing in the UK.

If you are receiving a State pension and you were back say for 2 months would you be getting more money as some have had their monthly pension payments frozen.

Could you take out car insurance if not a resident? How about opening a bank account or something else where you NEED to be a resident.

Just because a person who holds dual citizenship is it really necessary to INSIST they now get a UK passport even though the person is not going back to the UK to live, work or study and they will be returning to the country where they are currently living.

You may have a different opinion but I think it is an unnecessary measure being taken against dual citizens.
 
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
What some people are overlooking is if you are a dual citizen and living outside the UK but you MUST get a UK passport to return to the UK for a visit you will NOT be treated as a resident of the UK so NOT covered under the NHS and I suspect there will be other things you WONT be able to do as you are NOT residing in the UK.

If you are receiving a State pension and you were back say for 2 months would you be getting more money as some have had their monthly pension payments frozen.

Could you take out car insurance if not a resident? How about opening a bank account or something else where you NEED to be a resident.

Just because a person who holds dual citizenship is it really necessary to INSIST they now get a UK passport even though the person is not going back to the UK to live, work or study and they will be returning to the country where they are currently living.

You may have a different opinion but I think it is an unnecessary measure being taken against dual citizens.
Most of what you say also applies to all the other countries including Canada and the USA that require you use their country’s passport when entering.

As Mrken30 says above, you can solve all this by giving up your UK citizenship.
 
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Originally Posted by durham_lad
Most of what you say also applies to all the other countries including Canada and the USA that require you use their country’s passport when entering.

As Mrken30 says above, you can solve all this by giving up your UK citizenship.
Or all countries could just not allow dual citizenship so then the problem is solved and nobody would have dual citizenship. Simples eh.
 
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Or all countries could just not allow dual citizenship so then the problem is solved and nobody would have dual citizenship. Simples eh.
Since India and China plus many others do not allow dual citizenship then I think we can say that more than half of the world’s population don’t have the right to dual citizenship, so those of who do hold dual citizenship are very much in the minority.
 
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Originally Posted by durham_lad
Since India and China plus many others do not allow dual citizenship then I think we can say that more than half of the world’s population don’t have the right to dual citizenship, so those of who do hold dual citizenship are very much in the minority.
And yet minority groups seem to effect changes in Legislation in many countries so the old mantra of the majority rules is somewhat redundant.
 


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