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Old Nov 11th 2010, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Octang Frye
Yes, indeed. Morlock or Eloi? That's your choice. If there's a tsunami, an earthquake, a hurricane - what do you do?
These are essential survival skills.
After the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami I didn't see people dying do to their lack of hunting skills, neither did I see people dying after the 1989 San Francisco earthquake cause they couldn't gut a deer, or starving to death after Katrina in New Orleans through their inability to stalk.

Essential survival skills in 2010 would seem more about getting an education, learning how to use Microsoft Office and balancing ones bank account.
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After the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami I didn't see people dying do to their lack of hunting skills, neither did I see people dying after the 1989 San Francisco earthquake cause they couldn't gut a deer, or starving to death after Katrina in New Orleans through their inability to stalk.

Essential survival skills in 2010 would seem more about getting an education, learning how to use Microsoft Office and balancing ones bank account.

If an astroid hit the planet and it was suddenly every man for himself, you'd last about a week.
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Old Nov 11th 2010, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by drop step
If an astroid hit the planet and it was suddenly every man for himself, you'd last about a week.
Cause that happens on a weekly basis doesn't it

What about the expert hunters/gutters who happened to be at ground central for the asteroid and were vaporised?

I think too many people have watched too many "end of the world" films or are religionists preparing for end of times. Perhaps I should just bury lots of tins of beans in my back garden for when the inevitable occurs.
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Cause that happens on a weekly basis doesn't it

What about the expert hunters/gutters who happened to be at ground central for the asteroid and were vaporised?

I think too many people have watched too many "end of the world" films or are religionists preparing for end of times. Perhaps I should just bury lots of tins of beans in my back garden for when the inevitable occurs.
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Old Nov 11th 2010, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Cause that happens on a weekly basis doesn't it

What about the expert hunters/gutters who happened to be at ground central for the asteroid and were vaporised?

I think too many people have watched too many "end of the world" films or are religionists preparing for end of times. Perhaps I should just bury lots of tins of beans in my back garden for when the inevitable occurs.

I can see you now "oh please sir can I have some food for my starving wife and baby, i'll balance your check book or Microsoft your windows???"
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Originally Posted by Octang Frye
Yes, indeed. Morlock or Eloi? That's your choice. If there's a tsunami, an earthquake, a hurricane - what do you do?
These are essential survival skills.
But the Morlock ate the Eloi, they didn't hunt other animals.
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Originally Posted by drop step
I can see you now "oh please sir can I have some food for my starving wife and baby, i'll balance your check book or Microsoft your windows???"
I'll be serious now, I'm not picking on you or anything, just replying with my own thought on the matter:

In the (highly unlikely) event that an asteroid did hit Earth, and it was small enough that it didn't destroy it completely but merely destroyed the infrastructure in a localised area, then there is a valid argument that knowledge of tracking/hunting/butchering would come in handy.

But, can't it also be argued that most people are adaptable enough that their own ingenuity will allow them to find their own food in any number of ways? It's not like you couldn't teach yourself to hunt. Necessity is the mother of invention after all, right?
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Old Nov 11th 2010, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by drop step
I can see you now "oh please sir can I have some food for my starving wife and baby, i'll balance your check book or Microsoft your windows???"
I believe that it is practice fo Mormons to have a year's supply of canned goods etc on hand.i
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I'll be serious now, I'm not picking on you or anything, just replying with my own thought on the matter:

In the (highly unlikely) event that an asteroid did hit Earth, and it was small enough that it didn't destroy it completely but merely destroyed the infrastructure in a localised area, then there is a valid argument that knowledge of tracking/hunting/butchering would come in handy.

But, can't it also be argued that most people are adaptable enough that their own ingenuity will allow them to find their own food in any number of ways? It's not like you couldn't teach yourself to hunt. Necessity is the mother of invention after all, right?
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Old Nov 11th 2010, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I'll be serious now, I'm not picking on you or anything, just replying with my own thought on the matter:

In the (highly unlikely) event that an asteroid did hit Earth, and it was small enough that it didn't destroy it completely but merely destroyed the infrastructure in a localised area, then there is a valid argument that knowledge of tracking/hunting/butchering would come in handy.

But, can't it also be argued that most people are adaptable enough that their own ingenuity will allow them to find their own food in any number of ways? It's not like you couldn't teach yourself to hunt. Necessity is the mother of invention after all, right?

I'm 47, and if I set my mind to it I could probably become a world class football player overnight too right? It took me 10 years of constant practice to be able to use a bow well enough to hunt bear.
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Old Nov 11th 2010, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad
I don't think its hypocritical.....I'd say those are straying more into the "trophy" category....OK, you might have the odd shark steak, maybe sharksfin soup (), but they are not in the regular food category that most people (round here at least) go hunting for. If you're taking duck, pheasant, dove, wild hog, deer etc for food, I'd see that as different to taking a bear or a shark just because you can.
You've never had my mountain lion stew or black bear burgers have you?
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Originally Posted by drop step
I'm 47, and if I set my mind to it I could probably become a world class football player overnight too right? It took me 10 years of constant practice to be able to use a bow well enough to hunt bear.
I was a target archer in my early teens, I'm pretty handy with a bow! Gave it up because music was more of a passion than archery.

My point was that the need/will to survive will spur you on to find food in any way you can. Be it through foraging, theft, hunting or whatever. There is no life or death need for you to become a footballer overnight, but I get your point.

Can you even eat bear???
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Old Nov 11th 2010, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I was a target archer in my early teens, I'm pretty handy with a bow! Gave it up because music was more of a passion than archery.

My point was that the need/will to survive will spur you on to find food in any way you can. Be it through foraging, theft, hunting or whatever. There is no life or death need for you to become a footballer overnight, but I get your point.

Can you even eat bear???
Greasy, gamey and tough, but I love it
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Old Nov 11th 2010, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by drop step
Greasy, gamey and tough, but I love it
I bet a bit of HP sauce makes the world of difference.
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
I bet a bit of HP sauce makes the world of difference.
Oh you have to marinate it for a week at least. My wife won't even allow it in the house. I have about 40 kilo's of it in the barn freezer now, me and the dogs are the only ones who like it. I like to eat it after a great workout because I believe it builds muscle better than any other kind of meat.

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