Considering staying here permenantly
#31
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#32
My advice is to think through the consequences of staying here not just for you, but for your children. Healthcare access and retirement (for you) are the two big issues imo. You've been here long enough to know what a shambles healthcare access is, especially for those without a job. One thing I never thought of when I decided to stay here is that my children may end up uninsured post-graduation. I've always had great insurance through my employment and never gave much thought to how it might affect my children. The healthcare reform act now helps in this regard as you can insure children up to age 26 on one's own employer-provided insurance. Also think through whether you have the financial means to insure yourselves in the event of job-loss. I know the one thing that would make me at my age leave is no health insurance.
Hear, Hear. totally agree with you. I think they really need to take the healthcare issue on board. I never thought about it seriously until last year when all of a sudden I was in hospital being told I may not work again (didnt turn out that way..phew!) and BTW you also have an anuerysm we need to monitor.. and there went the cost of the healthcare premium for my company at renewal time.
I know
. My daughter is very happy in Toronto...but it won't be easy for any of us if hubby and I move back to the UK. She feels the pull back to the UK like many of us do...we can't help it England is in our blood.
Her future MIL asked me why we would move back...the answer is simple...it's home. I also think of where we live now as home...but it's on a different level...if that makes sense.
. My daughter is very happy in Toronto...but it won't be easy for any of us if hubby and I move back to the UK. She feels the pull back to the UK like many of us do...we can't help it England is in our blood.
Her future MIL asked me why we would move back...the answer is simple...it's home. I also think of where we live now as home...but it's on a different level...if that makes sense.
#33
This thread brought tears to my eyes and I haven't even got my L1 yet. I've already had the "will it be permanent discussion", and thoughts about returning for kids University and my retirement.
I spent the weekend with my parents knowing that I won't see them that many times again, and they their only grandchildren.
Yet I prefer to jump for the new opportunity rather than live to ponder 'What If'.
I spent the weekend with my parents knowing that I won't see them that many times again, and they their only grandchildren.
Yet I prefer to jump for the new opportunity rather than live to ponder 'What If'.
#34
This thread brought tears to my eyes and I haven't even got my L1 yet. I've already had the "will it be permanent discussion", and thoughts about returning for kids University and my retirement.
I spent the weekend with my parents knowing that I won't see them that many times again, and they their only grandchildren.
Yet I prefer to jump for the new opportunity rather than live to ponder 'What If'.
I spent the weekend with my parents knowing that I won't see them that many times again, and they their only grandchildren.
Yet I prefer to jump for the new opportunity rather than live to ponder 'What If'.
Life's a bitch every now and then. You realise that there is a price for every action.
#35
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This thread sums up so many thoughts I have as well. We came here in 2009 initially for 2 years. In that time we decided to get our Green cards as we had a son soon turning 21 who wanted to come and work here. The 2 years are now up, and I was tearful at the thought of leaving , but at the same time scared if we decide to stay - it seems so final. So for now we have extended another year, and will face the same dilemma in a years' time.
As others have said, if only the healthcare issue would sort itself out I would feel much more comfortable making the decision to stay.
As others have said, if only the healthcare issue would sort itself out I would feel much more comfortable making the decision to stay.
#36
This thread sums up so many thoughts I have as well. We came here in 2009 initially for 2 years. In that time we decided to get our Green cards as we had a son soon turning 21 who wanted to come and work here. The 2 years are now up, and I was tearful at the thought of leaving , but at the same time scared if we decide to stay - it seems so final. So for now we have extended another year, and will face the same dilemma in a years' time.
As others have said, if only the healthcare issue would sort itself out I would feel much more comfortable making the decision to stay.
As others have said, if only the healthcare issue would sort itself out I would feel much more comfortable making the decision to stay.
#38
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i know the ponderances that you have Tony, i myself have only been here (FL) for just under 2years , im a UKC and came to be with my wife who is a USC, the plans we both had were to stay here for a little while then perhaps move to the Seattle area or somewhere up WA/OR way , then we discovered that we were going to have our 1st baby, now WA/OR are gone out the window lol.....
so we decided that since we had insurance through our employer that we would stay here at least till the baby is born and then see where life takes us , but after having the conversations about where we want our child growing up and going to school etc , we decided that we are going to head back over to Scotland in 3 or 4 years to put our kid through school over there , which gives me the time to sort out USC to leave our options open for later years
good luck in whatever you decide to do and bear in mind that , as so many have said before me in this thread, make what decision is right for you and your family at this moment , the future will take care of itself , whether its this side of the pond or the other side of the pond
so we decided that since we had insurance through our employer that we would stay here at least till the baby is born and then see where life takes us , but after having the conversations about where we want our child growing up and going to school etc , we decided that we are going to head back over to Scotland in 3 or 4 years to put our kid through school over there , which gives me the time to sort out USC to leave our options open for later years
good luck in whatever you decide to do and bear in mind that , as so many have said before me in this thread, make what decision is right for you and your family at this moment , the future will take care of itself , whether its this side of the pond or the other side of the pond
#39
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Issues to consider:
1) How permanent is permant to you?
2) A green card and after 5 years in the country you can apply for Citizenship
That means you take US Citizenship as your primary status (above that of your other passport).
3) You will always be taxed on worldwide income and have to file taxes annually not matter where you live in the world.
4) Once you have done the 5 years do apply to Citizenship as the family will then feel the US is their real home. Complications can come up if you don't apply. e.g. a famly member is traveling as a passenger in a car which has a routine police stop. A small amount of drugs are found and ALL occupants are charged. Even a misdemeanor charge/guilty offence, however minor, becomes an issue when converting to US citizenship and a worse offense can mean one family member might be deported. Yeah won't happen but s..t does happen to some people.
5) Are you happy with the cost of paying for US colleges? European's often get highly subsidized college education. Even with the UK's recent rises in costs it's WAY cheaper than the US.
6) As well as contributing to social security BUDGET for IRAs/401Ks etc They are a MUST for retirement. The US is NOT a nanny State.
7) Healthcare, around 65 one transitions onto Medicare (requies 10 full years of paying into the fund). Evaluate the costs one has to pay for Medicare at 65 e.g. higher than that in Europe.
So overall if you really feel comfortable heading to US citizenship it's a fine goal. If that's the way for your family, do it ASAP. And do your long term budget NOW.
The US is a great country. Enjoy it.
1) How permanent is permant to you?
2) A green card and after 5 years in the country you can apply for Citizenship
That means you take US Citizenship as your primary status (above that of your other passport).
3) You will always be taxed on worldwide income and have to file taxes annually not matter where you live in the world.
4) Once you have done the 5 years do apply to Citizenship as the family will then feel the US is their real home. Complications can come up if you don't apply. e.g. a famly member is traveling as a passenger in a car which has a routine police stop. A small amount of drugs are found and ALL occupants are charged. Even a misdemeanor charge/guilty offence, however minor, becomes an issue when converting to US citizenship and a worse offense can mean one family member might be deported. Yeah won't happen but s..t does happen to some people.
5) Are you happy with the cost of paying for US colleges? European's often get highly subsidized college education. Even with the UK's recent rises in costs it's WAY cheaper than the US.
6) As well as contributing to social security BUDGET for IRAs/401Ks etc They are a MUST for retirement. The US is NOT a nanny State.
7) Healthcare, around 65 one transitions onto Medicare (requies 10 full years of paying into the fund). Evaluate the costs one has to pay for Medicare at 65 e.g. higher than that in Europe.
So overall if you really feel comfortable heading to US citizenship it's a fine goal. If that's the way for your family, do it ASAP. And do your long term budget NOW.
The US is a great country. Enjoy it.
#40
So, when we moved here in 2008, it was as tempoorary residents on an intercompany transfer.
We had L1/L2 visas. In order to have a fallback position in case the worst happened and my company downsized or wanted to send me back before I was ready, we applied for and received Green cards.
So now, having been here three years, I am being head-hunted by another company.
A big consideration in whether to potentially accept the job is: do I really want to stay here in the US indefinitely? ...have my kids go to college here, retire here.... etc
I know that only my family and me can answer this, but I'd be grateful for any thoughts from y'all....
...what questions did you have when you considered this?
...how did you resolve them?
...what practical considerations should I be aware of ... financially, administratively etc?
Any thoughts welcome....
Cheers
Tony
We had L1/L2 visas. In order to have a fallback position in case the worst happened and my company downsized or wanted to send me back before I was ready, we applied for and received Green cards.
So now, having been here three years, I am being head-hunted by another company.
A big consideration in whether to potentially accept the job is: do I really want to stay here in the US indefinitely? ...have my kids go to college here, retire here.... etc
I know that only my family and me can answer this, but I'd be grateful for any thoughts from y'all....
...what questions did you have when you considered this?
...how did you resolve them?
...what practical considerations should I be aware of ... financially, administratively etc?
Any thoughts welcome....
Cheers
Tony





