Brazilian family intends to sue police
#286
Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by krizzy
They were talking illegal earnings......that is a crime.......
a) him sending money back to Brazil been a crime?
b) British jurisdiction expanded to Brazil?
Him earning the money was the crime, not what he did with it.
#287
Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by krizzy
No-one is saying he deserved to die because he was illegal........good god......
He ran from police into a subway station...
He was shot as a suspected terrorist...
It turned out that he ran because his visa had expired...
Technically speaking as a result of being an illegal he was killed due to being stupid.
#288
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by Manc
since when has
a) him sending money back to Brazil been a crime?
b) British jurisdiction expanded to Brazil?
Him earning the money was the crime, not what he did with it.
a) him sending money back to Brazil been a crime?
b) British jurisdiction expanded to Brazil?
Him earning the money was the crime, not what he did with it.
So you're saying if you spend the money quick enough......even if its illegal.....its OK.......cool.......
#289
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by CitySimon
You took my comment completely out of context...
He ran from police into a subway station...
He was shot as a suspected terrorist...
It turned out that he ran because his visa had expired...
Technically speaking as a result of being an illegal he was killed due to being stupid.
He ran from police into a subway station...
He was shot as a suspected terrorist...
It turned out that he ran because his visa had expired...
Technically speaking as a result of being an illegal he was killed due to being stupid.
#290
Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by krizzy
If he is earning money without a visa than that money is illegal......no matter where it goes.......
The money isn't illegal.
it is still legal tender.
and you are suggesting his family in Brazil have commited a crime by receiving such funds.
under what jurisdiction does this fall?
#291
Re: Bralian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by walla1
I'm going to bed now, can I be sued for that?
#292
Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
I have a serious question (cribbed from a letter in today's Guardian):
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
#293
Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by elfman
I have a serious question (cribbed from a letter in today's Guardian):
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
#294
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by elfman
I have a serious question (cribbed from a letter in today's Guardian):
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
The only mistake the police made - as I see it - was suspecting this guy was a suicide bomber, the reasons for that will come out in the investigation.
The Israelis and Sri Lankans (sp?) seem to think the only option is to shoot a suspected suicide bomber, the question is, when does someone become a suspected suicide bomber?
#295
Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by elfman
I have a serious question (cribbed from a letter in today's Guardian):
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
If the police can't afford to take any chances at all, under what circumstances would Menezes not have been shot in the head, once he was under suspicion? Would the police really trust a suspected suicide bomber to give himself up under challenge and not just detonate the bomb when they approached?
It is my understanding that he was ordered to halt. If he had, I feel that he would not have been shot. He would have been approached cautiously in case he was wired, etc.
He aroused suspicion because of his actions. If he had done as ordered, he would be alive today.
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by Manc
disagree, the money has been earned illegally.
The money isn't illegal.
it is still legal tender.
and you are suggesting his family in Brazil have commited a crime by receiving such funds.
under what jurisdiction does this fall?
The money isn't illegal.
it is still legal tender.
and you are suggesting his family in Brazil have commited a crime by receiving such funds.
under what jurisdiction does this fall?
I always thought that reciving illegal money was a crime...if not my uncle did 3 to 10 for nothing........he should of spent it faster......
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
I read yesterday that Jack Straw said he was in the UK legally
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by krizzy
The money is illegal.......even if still legal tender.......you are just spilting hairs.
I always thought that reciving illegal money was a crime...if not my uncle did 3 to 10 for nothing........he should of spent it faster......
I always thought that reciving illegal money was a crime...if not my uncle did 3 to 10 for nothing........he should of spent it faster......
#299
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
I really must love you all and run.....my twisted knee is all better now......and I have no reason to rest it up anymore........
So back to house painting........I'll pop back later.......
So back to house painting........I'll pop back later.......
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Re: Brazilian family intends to sue police
Originally Posted by Rete
It is my understanding that he was ordered to halt. If he had, I feel that he would not have been shot. He would have been approached cautiously in case he was wired, etc.
He aroused suspicion because of his actions. If he had done as ordered, he would be alive today.
He aroused suspicion because of his actions. If he had done as ordered, he would be alive today.